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Old 04-19-2012   #1
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After years of stumbling around the AFC South, the Houston Texans finally stepped up and made the playoffs. Considering the obstacles they had to overcome (losing two quarterbacks and their star pass rusher), it was all the more impressive that Houston suffered a narrow defeat in the AFC Divisional round to an impressive Ravens squad.

So what was the trigger for such a turnaround? We’re going to put the Texans 2008 to 2010 draft classes through the Draft Grader. As is always the case, every pick gets a grade between +2.0 and -2.0 (in 0.5 increments) that depends upon:

• Where they were drafted
• Their performance
• Their contribution (how many snaps their team got out of them)
• Other factors such as unforeseen injuries and conditions that could not have been accounted for

Let’s take a look at how the Texans drafted.

+2.0: You’ve just found Tom Brady in the 6th round

Maybe T.J. Yates will one day be the fifth-round version?

+1.5: Getting much more than you bargained for!

No chance.

1.0: The scouts nailed it!

Duane Brown, T (26th overall pick in 2008): Brown was viewed as something of a project when he was selected as a first round pick, and given how he performed in his rookie year, you wondered just how much development he needed. Year-on-year Brown has got better, to the point where you wouldn’t argue too strongly against suggestions he’s a Top 5 left tackle in the league. A win for the scouts, a win for the coaches, and a win for patience.

Brian Cushing, LB (15th overall pick in 2009): The star of an excellent 2009 draft class, Cushing has quickly become one of the league’s best linebackers. His 2010 didn’t go to plan after a suspension and he struggled to regain his rookie form, but the Texans’ move to a 3-4 got him back on track and he responded with our second-highest grade of all inside linebackers.



+0.5: Never hurts to find a solid contributor

Connor Barwin, LB (46th overall pick in 2009): The jury is still out on Barwin, who is capable of looking extremely good (see Week 12 versus Jacksonville), but too often struggles to get the better of tackles. An aggressive scheme will always inflate his numbers, but he needs to do more to prove he can be a team’s premier pass rusher. Very productive last year though.

Antoine Caldwell, G (77th overall pick in 2009): It may surprise some to realize Caldwell has managed 1,145 snaps over three years with the Texans. Rotating in at right guard regularly, Caldwell will finally get his chance to start in 2012, and given how he’s played so far (+4.0 grade) we like his chances.

Glover Quin, S (112th overall pick in 2009): One of the most versatile defensive backs in the league, Quin was the only defensive back in Houston to come out with any credit in 2010, and followed it up with a solid 2011. A competent NFL starter.

James Casey, TE/ FB (152nd overall pick in 2009): Spent his early career buried on the depth chart, but took his opportunity in 2011 to be something of a weapon as a receiver out of the backfield. Expected to see an increase in opportunities with the departure of Joel Dreessen.

Brice McCain, CB (188th overall pick in 2009): Looked out of his depth until a new coaching staff turned him into a slot corner. The result? A +5.9 coverage grade and McCain looked like he could be one of the league’s premier slot cornerbacks.

Troy Nolan, S (223rd overall pick in 2009): Not cut out for starting, Nolan has caved out a role for himself as a sub-package safety in the Texans’ dime defense. Looked much better in 2011 in his 438 snaps.

Ben Tate, RB (58th overall pick in 2010): Despite missing all of his rookie year, Tate has lived up to his drafting with a series of impressive performances as a rookie. Averaged 5.4 yards per carry and earned a +6.2 rushing grade as he formed a potent one-two punch with Arian Foster.



0.0: It could have been worse

Steve Slaton, RB (89th overall pick in 2008): Back in 2008, the Texans looked like they’d hit the jackpot with Slaton as a late third-rounder, putting forth a season that earned him a +10.1 grade. But things went south from there, as he couldn’t replicate his form and put the ball on the ground once too often. The rookie year means Houston got something out of him, but it threatened to be a lot more at one point.

Frank Okam, DT (151st overall pick in 2008): Houston gave up on Okam in 2010, after just 138 snaps which earned him a -7.6 grade. Just didn’t work out for them at all.

Dominique Barber, S (173rd overall pick in 2008): You wouldn’t want Barber starting for a prolonged period of time, but in addition to providing depth at the safety spot he’s also contributed with 24 special teams tackles over four years.

Alex Brink, QB (223rd overall pick in 2008): Spent a year hanging around Houston before the Texans finally cut the cord.

Earl Mitchell, DT (81st overall pick in 2010): Still waiting to see whether Mitchell can make a huge contribution as part of the Texans’ defensive line rotation. Has made plays, though can at times look a little undersized for life as a nose tackle.

Darryl Sharpton, LB (102nd overall pick in 2010): Will likely get his chance to start in 2012, Sharpton has looked built for a two-down linebacker role with impressive work coming downhill and looking a bit lax when on his heels.

Garrett Graham, TE (118th overall pick in 2010): Just 32 career snaps on offense, though interestingly did line up on defense for two snaps in Week 17 last year. Will likely see more of him in 2012.

Sherrick McManis, CB (144th overall pick in 2010): While he hasn’t done a good job of getting on the field in a crowded defensive backfield (30 snaps on defense), has become something of a core special-teamer for Houston.

Shelley Smith, G (187th overall pick in 2010): Bounced on and off the roster as a rookie while missing all of 2011 with an injury. Odds of him catching on appear to be low.

Trindon Holliday, WR (197th overall pick in 2010): Meant to be a dynamite kick returner with upside on offense, but ball security issues in pre season meant that Holliday fair caught just three balls in his NFL career.

Dorin Dickerson, TE (227th overall pick in 2010): A developmental project, he struggled to adapt from turning from college tight end to receiver in the pros. Waived after a year.



-0.5: That pick was not put to good use

Xavier Abidi, LB (118th overall pick in 2008): Abidi was given opportunities to start, but the former fourth round pick never grasped them. Struggling before being waived in 2011, Abidi earned a -12.1 grade on just 474 snaps.

Anthony Hill, TE (122nd overall pick in 2009): The only dud from the 2008 class, Hill got on the field for just 20 snaps. Tearing his ACL as a rookie didn’t help, but Hill was always going to have a hard time catching on.

Kareem Jackson, CB (20th overall pick in 2010): After a horrendous rookie year, took some strides in 2011, but still has a long way to go to live up to being a firs t round pick. Telling that Houston didn’t trust him to be an every-series starter last year.



-1.0: What a waste!

Antwaun Molden, CB (79th overall pick in 2008): A real disappointment for the Texans, Molden managed just 32 snaps on defense. The former third round pick was limited by injuries and excelled on special teams, but didn’t threaten a lineup that was particularly weak at corner.



-1.5: The scouts/ coaches failed, big time!

Good job with the scouting–none here.



-2.0: You just drafted the love child of Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf!

No Russell/ Leaf hybrids in this draft.



Summary

If there was ever a model franchise for how to make itself competitive, it’s the Texans. Years in obscurity seem set to be replaced by years in prosperity and, in large part, it’s the result of finding players from their drafts who can contribute and then filling in the gaps in free agency. The 2010 class may go down as one of the most productive in recent memory, with Houston able to churn out a number of starters and role players. They have shown that patience can be a virtue with some talented players who have developed over time to become quality starters.
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I think they over valued TJ Yates and under valued other players. But it's nice to read others think highly of our organization.

Stuff like this just makes me ready for draft week that much more.
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....the love child of Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf!
Is his name Vince Young?
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I think a lot of the fanbase undervalues Yates.

Yeah, he had some bad moments but considering the circumstances the guy was really good.

He QB'd this franchise to our first play-off win. He played really well at times, even without Andre for some of it.

He ran up against a really good Baltimore defense with Ed Reed and Ray Lewis leading the way. Two guys that have seen it all from offenses. This was his first time playing that team.

I'm pretty sure there have been rookies drafted higher with more expectations that have done just as bad or worse against that team.

Everyone loves Andy Dalton's future prospects, but he had a QB rating in the 60's both times he played the Ravens AND he threw 3 picks the first time he faced them as well. Keep it in mind that Dalton had the benefit of knowing he was a starter and getting that extra attention from day 1.

I think Yates did an outstanding job all things considered and this is coming from someone that was saying before last season they should have cut him to put him on the PS so they could have an extra roster spot.

If Schaub can't go, I feel good about Yates leading the team for a while.
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If Schaub can't go, I feel good about Yates leading the team for a while.
You will get your wish sooner than later in my opinion.

I think Yates showed well last season considering how little prep he had gotten earlier in the season. With a full preseason behind him, and the coachs knowing he has to be ready, he could be a very good QB. But we won't know that until he starts playing. I'm hoping they take another QB mid to late draft, because if not, they'll be scrambling for everyone's left overs and other out of work QBs wanting a paycheck.
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Didn't really learn anything from that article. Pretty meh work, imo.
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I think they over valued TJ Yates...
They were only rating the 2008-2010 drafts. Yates was drafted in 2011, and they were speculating on his future ranking (if he takes off).
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I know it's still early, but I think JJ Watt will fit into the +1.5 category.
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The Texans under Rick/Gary have done a good not great job of drafting.

I would put Barwin/Quin/Tate in the +1.0 category.
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I think a lot of the fanbase undervalues Yates.

Yeah, he had some bad moments but considering the circumstances the guy was really good.

He QB'd this franchise to our first play-off win. He played really well at times, even without Andre for some of it.

He ran up against a really good Baltimore defense with Ed Reed and Ray Lewis leading the way. Two guys that have seen it all from offenses. This was his first time playing that team.

I'm pretty sure there have been rookies drafted higher with more expectations that have done just as bad or worse against that team.

Everyone loves Andy Dalton's future prospects, but he had a QB rating in the 60's both times he played the Ravens AND he threw 3 picks the first time he faced them as well. Keep it in mind that Dalton had the benefit of knowing he was a starter and getting that extra attention from day 1.

I think Yates did an outstanding job all things considered and this is coming from someone that was saying before last season they should have cut him to put him on the PS so they could have an extra roster spot.

If Schaub can't go, I feel good about Yates leading the team for a while.
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Loking at Yates as a 5th rd pick with very little preparation vs Ponder/Gabbert as high 1st rd picks makes me very hopeful about Yates future. Yates played very well considering the circumstances he was put in.

Watt is definitely a + 1.5 IMHO Newton/Miller/Green/Watt made the most impact as rookies on their teams.
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Loking at Yates as a 5th rd pick with very little preparation vs Ponder/Gabbert as high 1st rd picks makes me very hopeful about Yates future. Yates played very well considering the circumstances he was put in.

Watt is definitely a + 1.5 IMHO Newton/Miller/Green/Watt made the most impact as rookies on their teams.
Let's not forget how much better he looked when Andre was in there with him. Save for the Baltimore game, but Reed can do that to alot of QBs and yet we were still a Kevin Walter catch away from going to OT with those fools.
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Personally, I'd rank Mitchell a bit higher than they have him.
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Article re-enforces my thoughts on Kubiak and Smith: they are solid when it comes to the draft, and I am not worried about the decisions they will make in about a week.
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Watt is definitely a + 1.5 IMHO
A.) I know he was grading the 2008 through 2010 draft, but anyways I might even rank Watt (2011 draft) as 1.75, halfway between 1.5 and 2.0...but I think 1.5 is warranted right now.

B.) Mitchell should be 0.5 (The "never hurts to have a contributor" category) instead of the 0.0 ranking.

There is always going to be a chance that a few teams goof up early in Round 1 and let guys slip to us at 26 that we can use right away. In fact, I think that very thing will happen. Zeitler at RG is a guy I think slips to 26. Kendall Wright at WR is a possible slip to 26. Fleener? Slim chance but it's possible. I think those three guys are good, almost a no-risk factor at pick 26. Any of those three guys are going to firm up roster positions on the Texans that need immediate talent at those positions.

My hesitancy is on the LBs that are going to be floating around out there in Round 1. I am a bit foggy on which ones are good for Wade, and if there's even one out there that Smith, Kubiak, and Phillips would spend a #26 overall upon. I think this is why we signed Bradie James...I think his acquisition and Sharpton provide the rotation there, allowing us to go LB later in the draft.

OL and WR or TE (He has to be fast, smart, blocks well, and reliable hands...like Fleener) seem to be the three positions I think we will target. No way we go CB, no way we go S, LB is likely out of the question, and I cannot see us gambling on DL at #26. On the offense, we won't take QB, will not take a C (unless Konz is there, which I bet he isn't), won't take RB or FB, so that leaves a G or T and either a WR or a TE.

That's my guess, and in this order: WR, TE, or G or T. Wright will be off the board, by all likelihood, so that leaves us debating on taking a leftover WR or going the route of a TE or an OL. Which means: Fleener will likely be off the board, but there's still some quality TEs to be had at #26. If they don't like those leftovers...they can go with Zeitler or Cordy Glenn--Some "Duane Brown" type mauler to add instantly to the o-line. I think they have lots of options.
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Article re-enforces my thoughts on Kubiak and Smith: they are solid when it comes to the draft, and I am not worried about the decisions they will make in about a week.
Compaired to our first GM/HC combo of Capers and Casserly, Smith and Kubiak are rock stars. They've also got us to the playoffs and looking like we take the AFC south two years in a row.

For those not used to me praising Kubiak like this, well, I'm not used to it either, but the truth is the truth. We shall soon see though.
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All would mean squat without Wade Phillips coming here in 2011
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All would mean squat without Wade Phillips coming here in 2011
Since we still don't know for sure the exact way in which he was hired, and probably never will, default credit still has to go to Smith in some way for the Son of Bum signing.
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Didn't really learn anything from that article. Pretty meh work, imo.
I don't think the article is for diehards like all of us. It's more to inform people that are fans of other teams. I might not have gotten much out of it, but if I read the same type of writeup for any of the other 31 teams, I'd had learned a lot.
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I don't think the article is for diehards like all of us. It's more to inform people that are fans of other teams. I might not have gotten much out of it, but if I read the same type of writeup for any of the other 31 teams, I'd had learned a lot.
Good point. If I want to read an article about in depth stuff concerning the Texans I'd rather read an article from someone here at Texans Talk...I may disagree with some of it, but at least most here are keyed in to the team.
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