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Old 04-25-2012   #61
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The guy was making his 7th start in the playoffs against one of the great defenses of all time, a defense that has made all pro QBs look silly. And we were still in it at the end of the game.

Your bar might be set a little high.
I think we were still in it at the end of the game because of our defense.

I've got nothing against Tj.... but I'm not ready to anoint him the starter. I'd just like have other options, just in case.

If he's the starter, his job is winning & right now, I think his job needs to be getting better at the fundamentals. Reading, footwork, timing, & learning that playbook like the back of his hand.

Week 16 & 17, we weren't playing the Ravens formidable D.
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This.

No one doubts Dalton and her performed pretty awful last year against the ravens as well.
And that's why Dalton has NOT proven that he is a legitimate starting QB in the NFL. Nice 1st year, but far from a build around guy (or honestly even a schaub)
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Schaub says he's "Ready to go".

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The next time quarterback Matt Schaub and receiver Andre Johnson are on the field together, they will not be highly paid Texans cheerleaders.


Schaub (foot) and Johnson (knee) watched and advised during the 10 organized team activities. They’ll sit out next week’s minicamp with about 30 other veterans who’ll spend three days in the weight room and leave the on-field work to players who need to learn the system.


“I’m ready to go,” Schaub said Friday.


Schaub is healthy after Lisfranc surgery on his right foot last November.
Schaub could have participated in the OTAs, but coach Gary Kubiak kept him out as a precaution. Like Johnson,


Schaub will be 100 percent when training camp begins in late July. Johnson had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee in early May.
I guess we'll revisit this come training camp.
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I guess we'll revisit this come training camp.
They said they kept out Schaub as precaution.

On the side field doing agility drills, he looked fine. Did agility drills, and then went through various drop backs, bootleg work.

He looks like Schaub.
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They said they kept out Schaub as precaution.

On the side field doing agility drills, he looked fine. Did agility drills, and then went through various drop backs, bootleg work.

He looks like Schaub.

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As much of a Matt detractor as I have been, this is actually an exciting situation to me. You have a QB who has beat the odds and made it back seemingly from what could have been a career ending injury. He is in a contract year. Although I still consider his overall career performance to be average, he has shown flashes of brilliance at times. Did I mention he is in a contract year? All players typically have some of their best years in contract years, and some of their worse the year after. If Matt comes out guns blazing and can go the distance we should have one hell of a ride this year.

What if he gets injured? Then you have this young gun on the bench just chomping at the bit to get back into the action. TJ has had a taste of starting, won a playoff game, and wants to prove he belongs. I feel if he is called upon he will do just that ... prove he belongs, and wouldnt be surprised even if Matt has a good year if TJ isnt the starter going forward for cap reasons and just because of Matts overall injury history. May be a business decision to be made.

Lastly what if the worse possible scenario happens and here we are going back to the playoffs and have to turn to Keenum? Hometown college hero, huge numbers, legitimate heisman contender ... nothing to lose. If we are unfortunate enough to find ourselves in that situation ... I say bring it on.

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As much of a Matt detractor as I have been, this is actually an exciting situation to me. You have a QB who has beat the odds and made it back seemingly from what could have been a career ending injury.
To be fair, Matt hasn't beaten anything yet. He is right where he is supposed to be. We won't know if he's back until game time. TexansChick report are nice to hear & cause to be optimistic, but Demeco was in this same spot last season. We didn't understand the limits of his recovery until game day. Of course Cushing taking snaps @ Mike should have been a clue.

But we knew Schaub would eventually be healthy again. The question is (& always has been) how healthy?
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To be fair, Matt hasn't beaten anything yet. He is right where he is supposed to be. We won't know if he's back until game time. TexansChick report are nice to hear & cause to be optimistic, but Demeco was in this same spot last season. We didn't understand the limits of his recovery until game day. Of course Cushing taking snaps @ Mike should have been a clue.

But we knew Schaub would eventually be healthy again. The question is (& always has been) how healthy?
Good news for us is shaub runs A LOT less than demeco did, and we dont depend to much on Schaubs feet. Its not like he is a vick type QB.
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I really hope my pessimism regarding Schaub's injury is overblown, but we won't know (unless he gets re-injured before then) until the season starts.

I'm glab he's moving fluidly and can handle basic agility drills, I'm just going to shudder the first time a lineman steps on his foot during a drop-back.

With a healthy Schaub (and if the right side of the line "gels"), the Texans are a contender for the big prize. Without him, they're a crapshoot.
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And that's why Dalton has NOT proven that he is a legitimate starting QB in the NFL. Nice 1st year, but far from a build around guy (or honestly even a schaub)
Who said that he's proven anything?

My point is that fans in cincy are excited about his future prospects and they expect him to be a good qb now and in the future.

Not even sure what your point is.
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Good news for us is shaub runs A LOT less than demeco did, and we dont depend to much on Schaubs feet. Its not like he is a vick type QB.
but for schaub its not about running around, its about him planting and pushing off his injured foot.. the health of his plant foot is just as important as the health of his shoulder/arm.. changes in his mechanics could effect his accuracy, any discomfort in his foot could effect his arm strength..
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but for schaub its not about running around, its about him planting and pushing off his injured foot.. the health of his plant foot is just as important as the health of his shoulder/arm.. changes in his mechanics could effect his accuracy, any discomfort in his foot could effect his arm strength..
Yes, then you have to figure how worried will he be when he sees 1200lbs of DL ready to pounce on him. Is he going to stay in the pocket that nth second to deliver that perfect strike? Is he going to rush his throws, his reads?

Is he going to get even slower on turning around & getting set up on his bootlegs?
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Yes, then you have to figure how worried will he be when he sees 1200lbs of DL ready to pounce on him. Is he going to stay in the pocket that nth second to deliver that perfect strike? Is he going to rush his throws, his reads?

Is he going to get even slower on turning around & getting set up on his bootlegs?
Sounds like you're saying he could turn into DC II.
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Can a QB really pick up those bad habits at his age? Simply a curious question because I have never seen that.
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Can a QB really pick up those bad habits at his age? Simply a curious question because I have never seen that.
Only habits he might incur favoring a bum foot.
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Maybe there is some sort of air boot that offers a better ability for him to push off that foot?
If Schaub is healthy & has a Schaub like season 4k-4500 yds and injury bug flys away, we have a good shot at a SB.
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Maybe there is some sort of air boot that offers a better ability for him to push off that foot?
If Schaub is healthy & has a Schaub like season 4k-4500 yds and injury bug flys away, we have a good shot at a SB.
Personally, I think it relies on both Schaub and AJ being healthy all season long, and certainly not the AJ we had in the playoffs (great effort to get on the field, all credit for that, but he just wasn't match fit was he.)

If both those things happen, and I don't think they're certainties whatever the coaches are saying right now, then we're only a bit of luck away from being contenders.
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Personally, I think it relies on both Schaub and AJ being healthy all season long, and certainly not the AJ we had in the playoffs (great effort to get on the field, all credit for that, but he just wasn't match fit was he.)

If both those things happen, and I don't think they're certainties whatever the coaches are saying right now, then we're only a bit of luck away from being contenders.
Close. The key thing is for Schaub & Andre to be healthy @ the right time ( playoffs).
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Maybe there is some sort of air boot that offers a better ability for him to push off that foot?
If Schaub is healthy & has a Schaub like season 4k-4500 yds and injury bug flys away, we have a good shot at a SB.
Trent Dilfer had 1500 yds and 12 tds the year the Ravens won the SB.

Run the ball and play good defense.
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Maybe there is some sort of air boot that offers a better ability for him to push off that foot?
If Schaub is healthy & has a Schaub like season 4k-4500 yds and injury bug flys away, we have a good shot at a SB.
We have a shot at the Superbowl with Yates or Schaub at QB. The best defense in the league combined with the best running back and running back duo in the league.
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