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Old 04-11-2012   #1
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I placed this article in this section because of the comparison references to this city.

Somehow, I find the light in which Houston is presented somewhat mischaracterized and distasteful. Yes, there was controversy over the choice of picks. But, initially, there were as many supporters as there were distractors. And, even so, soon thereafter, most of us were willing to give Mario the benefit of the doubt while the "trial" period proceeded.

It may just be me, but this article somehow rubbed me the wrong way.

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Mario Williams doesn't feel pressure despite big deal
By Dan Hanzus NFL.com
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Published: April 11, 2012 at 10:33 a.m.
Updated: April 11, 2012 at 10:42 a.m.

You think Mario Williams is feeling pressure after signing a deal with the Buffalo Bills to become the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history? Think again.

Williams knows pressure. He knew it 2006 when he was a 20-year-old kid coming out North Carolina State, drafted by a Houston Texans team with a fanbase furious the team chose Williams over both the hometown hero (Vince Young) and "the next Gale Sayers" (Reggie Bush).

Williams faced a nearly impossible challenge there, and obviously came out just fine. Everything else is a cake walk for the two-time Pro Bowler.

"I know what this city wants and needs and that’s fine with me," Williams said of Buffalo, according to the Bills' official site. "That’s not pressure. I play football. That’s what I do. My main goal is to play football that helps us win. This city also embraced me.”

Williams hasn't forgotten how difficult it was to play in a city that wasn't behind him. Neither has Charley Casserly, the NFL Network analyst who drafted Williams during his run as general manager with the Texans.

“In Houston the poor young man was booed,” Casserly said. “He was ridiculed. There was a lot criticism of myself, and I purposely tried to put as much on me and take it off of him because at 20 years old and just being drafted this wasn’t his fault. From there everybody was against the kid.”

Williams got off to a slow start with the Texans, leading many to prematurely label him as a bust. He will face the same challenge in Buffalo, a much more supportive fanbase that will expect instant results nonetheless.
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That has got to be some of the biggest crap I've ever heard. Talk about sour grapes still on Casserly's part, because he did a horrible job here.

Mario was treated damn good here. He was overrated for one, and he was paid big time. Who cares if he would have been boooed or not welcomed right away when he was making around 50 MIllion guaranteed at the time. That's an easy trade off. Casserly needs to shut his pie hole, because he set this franchise back several years from his failures.
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He was worshipped here from 2007-2011 where he only had two 10+ sack seasons. Cry me a river.
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Sounds like Casserly was the writer's only source for perspective. It reminds me of how the worst leaders in history blame the people for failure rather than themselves. Casserly even feigns a little bit of martyrdom by offering to bear Mario's cross for him. Nice.

The more Casserly talks, the more he proves Belichik right.
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Default Re: Texans Fans / Mario Williams

He was booed when picked, yes. Dumb fans.

But his stay in Houston can't be characterized like that.

One thing: I can't think of anyone who has had to endure the same questions about draft day so many years into their career.
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Nobody BUT the media is to blame, Charles Casserly.

YOU guys (now that you're part of the media) do this crap to players, fans don't. Every fan embraces its players, most especially the high draft choices.

WE have pride in our guys, you media types--ESPN being the biggest of all--are the ones who drag guys like Mario Williams through the mud. For your own ratings.

Someone needs to Jalen Rose that a-hole Casserly.
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We simply couldn't afford him. I wish him luck but honestly it was a smart move to release him rather than having a salary cap crisis for the next few years especially since we have great players backing him up
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That has got to be some of the biggest crap I've ever heard. Talk about sour grapes still on Casserly's part, because he did a horrible job here.

Mario was treated damn good here. He was overrated for one, and he was paid big time. Who cares if he would have been boooed or not welcomed right away when he was making around 50 MIllion guaranteed at the time. That's an easy trade off. Casserly needs to shut his pie hole, because he set this franchise back several years from his failures.
HAHAHA You are 100% correct. We had every right to criticize him. In the preseason and first few games he was terrible. At the time we didn't know Vince Young and Reggie Bush were going to be bust's and we were shocked at the decision of picking Mario(it turned out perfect but still when that big of a shock happens the fans have a right to have doubts)
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BTW,

Would everybody agree that Ngata was the best player in the 2006 draft?

How Casserly has a job as a NFL expert continues to amaze me.
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Would everybody agree that Ngata was the best player in the 2006 draft?

How Casserly has a job as a NFL expert continues to amaze me.
Really? You'd pick him over Mario?
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Really? You'd pick him over Mario?
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Yes, and I agree with ya on that. But you would choose him over Mario Williams? I'd rather have BJ Raja as the nose tackle than Ngata.
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I really think the whole "fans treated Mario poorly" is over stated. Yeah he was booed in the beginning, but once he started performing the fans got off his back. I wish him well, we just simply could not afford him.
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Yes, and I agree with ya on that. But you would choose him over Mario Williams? I'd rather have BJ Raja as the nose tackle than Ngata.
what has mario done in the last 3 years that would make you take him over ngata? ngata isn't just a regular NT. you can do so much with him other than just plug the gaps.
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what has mario done in the last 3 years that would make you take him over ngata? ngata isn't just a regular NT. you can do so much with him other than just plug the gaps.
Career stats:

Ngata:
Solo Tackles:206 Sacks: 17.0

Mario Williams:
Solo Tackles:192 Sacks: 53

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I didn't see that you put "past three years" my bad. But career wise I'll go with Mario's Sacks
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Ngata:
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My personal memory was almost instantaneously it was us (Texan fans, Texans, Mario) against them. The general feeling was, "screw 'em, they'll learn."

Maybe that is inaccurate or maybe that's just the way I felt since I really disliked Reggie and Vince, but that's how I remember it.
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who else was in the "trade back for d'brickashaw" camp with me?
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