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Old 05-16-2005   #61
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I just read we should put him at Center.........hahhahahaa

Its so funny cuz, he probably would be an upgrade to Mckinney, which is so sad that its hilarious.

hahahaha........a big old RT moved to C..........hahahhaha

I love it.

maybe if we just tell Riley that his wife is cheating on him with all the DE's in the league maybe then he'd be a good enough pass blocker to play LT, or maybe he'd just get in his car and ram them too ?
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Texans | Riley Playing Catch-up - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 16 May 2005 12:41:25 -0700

HoustonTexans.com reports newly signed Houston Texans OT Victor Riley reported to the team's Monday, May 16 coaching session a bit behind on the conditioning front. Houston signed him to provide depth and competition along their offensive line. He is attempting to play catch-up as he acclimates himself to his new surroundings.
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From what a Saints fan has told me, that sounds about right.
He said he always shows up to camp out of shape.
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Old 05-17-2005   #64
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I signed up on this forum only to reply to this thread because of the usual optimism of new players signed to a team in the off season.

As a loyal Saints fan of many many years I can only hope for the success of your team that he is not wearing a Texan's jersey in week one. Even as a back up to a back up on the practice squad he would be hard pressed to prove that he is worth replacing said practice squad player. Far and beyond the worst offensive lineman that I have had the displeasure of watching, he is an absolute yardage cancer now on a team that is only one or two key players from being top ten in the league. I blame him single handedly for ruining drive after drive for the Saints. Holding the "Most Off-sides in the League" award is what killed a number of important plays and possible games.

As my hate for this out of shape, unprepared dullard grew, I would find myself watching him the entire game as the ball was snapped to watch his technique and play. He would get blown by time after time exposing Aaron Brooks and eventually sending him into a scramble or into a sack. These occurances weren't even against the elite defensive ends. ANYONE and EVERYONE dominated him.

If we used no one from our draft and released no other player than Victor Riley this year, I consider our offseason a success.

As a supporter of the Texans, unless playing New Orleans, I sincerely hope he does not make the final roster.
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Is their anyway that we can release him and sign L.J. Shelton.

I tend to agree with the people that said, Casserly just signed Riley, to shut-up the fans, who were grumbling about him not doing anything major to improve the O-line.

I personally don't think Riley will make the final roster as a Tackle. I think he can only play guard now that he has lost so many steps. And even then, I don't want him.

L.J. Shelton on the other hand is a good football player. And he didn't kill his team with penalties/false start's like Riley did.

I think Casserly goofed with the Riley signing, unless Riley can play center and replace Mckinney.

He's got a chance to make it right, if he signs Shelton and makes sure that Riley really works hard and honestly earns a spot on this team.
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I tend to agree with the people that said, Casserly just signed Riley, to shut-up the fans, who were grumbling about him not doing anything major to improve the O-line.
That is absured. Casserly is one of the best in the business he has rings to show for it. Look the only way for a GM to suceed is to ignore what the fans want and do what he knows is right. Not all do that but the ones that win do.
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You said he's one of the best in the business, and then said yourself, that he has no rings to show for it.

Tell me, please, how does he become one of the BEST, if he has never proved it ?

Last I checked, "the BEST", WIN.

PATRIOTS = BEST

RED SOX = BEST

MARION JONES = BEST

cuz they've all won!

You don't get to be called one of the best, if you haven't proved it!
And until they win, calling him one of the best is OVER-RATING.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that he sucks, but, I sure don't think that he is one of the best.

The first player that he picked for HIS team.........Tony Boselli.

Casserly is one of the best.........no, good try though.
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Why does everyone act like the expansion draft is somehow like the regular draft? Boselli could have been the last guy taken...it didn't matter the order....WE WERE THE ONLY TEAM DRAFTING

Casserly has a long, proven track record. You might want to look it up.
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You said he's one of the best in the business, and then said yourself, that he has no rings to show for it.

He does have rings. He was with the Redskins help build there superbowl champion ship teams.

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bad post. had to retract it.

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The honest truth is that any GM starting a team had to take Boselli, just to avoid the negative rift it would cause the fans right from the start of the team. So Casserly taking Boselli is overrated. I don't know how much the league let the Texans medical staff look over these players if at all? So I can't say that anyone would've done anything differenty there.

That said, there were a handful of players that he didn't take, that I couldn't understand.

Here were some good players that Casserly skipped on:

Brad Badger T
Roman Oben T
Willie Mcginest DE/OLB
Ken Dilger TE
Reuben Droughns HB (I know that no one thought he was good back then, but, for that price why didn't they add him?)


Here's two guys that I think might've flourished in our system.
John Thierry OLB/DE
Tim Biakabutuka RB

There were a lot of other bigger names I could add, but they came with high Cap numbers.

I would've take Badger ($975,000), Mcginest (N/A), Dilger ($3,390,000), Thierry ($3,520,000), Droughns ($300,000), at least.

I know Thierry was a higher number for his production but, he was born in Houston, so I'm pretty sure he would've been happy to be here. And he was a proto-type 3-4 outside linebacker.


But, like I said, Casserly doesn't suck. I just think Casserly is overrated, I think its fair to say that he's above-average.........which means he's doing a better job than half of the other GM's in the league. Which is decent.
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Taking Boselli facilitated us starting off the franchise with a credible defensive line. Payne and Walker were in the package. We could have taken more players if we wanted to. It wasn't an either/or situation.
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Vinny you can correct me on the exact numbers, but arent you allowed like 30 or something expansion picks, and we only picked like 15-20, i might be off on the number, but the point is, that Casserly wanted to go with quality vets over quantity, .... also someone mentioned Reuben Droughns, are you kidding, Reuben Droughns hasnt done anything in the NFL, he had one good year last year, in the running back system that is Denver, that notoriously makes backs look better than some actually are.
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There was an option for how the Texans could go about the expansion draft--either take a certain number of players or take a certain percentage of cap space. Cleveland took option a, Houston took option b. Also, you can't just look at the list and assume they could have taken anyone that was ever available. There were rules such as what was involved with the Bosselli deal. Once you took one player from a team, they had the option of removing a player from the available list so for instance if they had taken Walker 1st, Jax could have taken Payne off the available list. Don't know if that applies to any of the players on throwAndre's list, but something to remember.

I'll say again, the biggest tragedy of the expansion draft was the NFL deciding Willie Roaf couldn't be put in the expansion draft for medical reasons and Bosselli could. Roaf hasn't missed a game since and I believe has gone to two pro-bowls. Imagine Carr's development and the offense as a whole if Roaf had been here and Pitts had been playing LG the whole time.
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I'll say again, the biggest tragedy of the expansion draft was the NFL deciding Willie Roaf couldn't be put in the expansion draft for medical reasons and Bosselli could. Roaf hasn't missed a game since and I believe has gone to two pro-bowls. Imagine Carr's development and the offense as a whole if Roaf had been here and Pitts had been playing LG the whole time.
i had forgotten about that, i HATE the nfl! bunch of donkeys they are.
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My take as a Saints fan.

Riley's performance is ok for a backup, especially for a low salary. The word around is that he can be a locker room problem, and Will Smith had to beat him down a year ago. He does have a lot of false starts, and "seems" lazy to me, but I am obviously not a coach. I would be worried about his locker room presence more than anything else. Hopefully you guys have some strong leadership in the lockerroom, and Riley has a new and better attitude after not being re-signed by the Saints.
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Yeah, I was aware of the rules, that when you draft a guy, that the other team can take a guy from the list.

So......here goes

Brad Badger T - Vikings (we took no one from the Vikings)
Ken Dilger TE - Colts (we took no one from the Colts)
John Thierry OLB/DE - Green Bay (we took no one from Green Bay)
Reuben Droughns RB - Detroit (we took no one from Detroit)

Willie Mcginest OLB/DE - Patriots (we took MATT STEVENS - S)

I know someone out there is going to cry about us needing a Safety more....OK my answer is:

Sam Garnes S - Giants (we took no one from the Giants)
too pricey you say ?

OK then

Bracey Walker S - Chiefs (we took no one from the Chiefs)
And Bracey was actually a little cheaper than Matt Stevens. And before someone says that Bracey Walker is too old.....well, he's still playing in the NFL..........where is Matt Stevens ? I might've just taken one more corner and converted one to Safety.

And someone pointed out that Reuben Droughns sucked, so why would they take him? Well, at that point I believe he'd only played one year, so its hard to judge how good or bad he was playing for the Lions........the fact is that he was a young RB for $300,000.........therefore not a hit to the cap in any way at all. I figure if I was starting out a team, I'd get a couple Young RB's if they were cheap.

Am I the only one that wasn't satisfied with their expansion draft ?
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