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Old 04-08-2012   #61
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The consensus is that he has the strongest arm in the draft. Over RG3 or Luck, etc.
Arm strength isn't everything. He completed just 45% of his redzone passes, and is prone to being intercepted at times (multiple INTs in six games last year, lost five of those). His overall completion percentage isn't outstanding, either. He shows some promise, but probably should have stayed for one more year to work on his accuracy and decision making (and have more than 15 starts).
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You let the guy at least get past his rookie year before before you decide that he can't read a defense. I know some you hate Kubiak's guts, but at least give the man some credit in determining if a QB has what it takes. And I bet he places the ability to read a defense at the top of the list above strength, accuracy, mobility, and everything else. He was forced to swallow David Carr for an entire season, so that alone makes me think he's not going to be that patient. It won't take him long to figure out if Yates has it or not.
Forced?! from my understanding they were gonna draft a QB and gary said no dont draft a qb yet bc i think i can make this guy a decent qb.. im 100% sure he said that!
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Forced?! from my understanding they were gonna draft a QB and gary said no dont draft a qb yet bc i think i can make this guy a decent qb.. im 100% sure he said that!
What anal orifice did you pull that out of? Carr was McNair's boy, and he was the one who signed Carr to the extension. Kubiak went along with it so he could get the job.

****! We're not going to go there again, are we?
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It's nice to see someone else who likes Osweiler. He can probably be had in the third and should be seriously considered. He has every tool you can want in your QB and will be much more accurate after Kubiak works out the kinks in his footwork. He is the third best QB in this draft in my opinion. He made some bad decisions but was asked to carry a bad team. Tannehill made as many if not more bad decisions on a much more talented team with better skill players.
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You let the guy at least get past his rookie year before before you decide that he can't read a defense. I know some you hate Kubiak's guts, but at least give the man some credit in determining if a QB has what it takes. And I bet he places the ability to read a defense at the top of the list above strength, accuracy, mobility, and everything else. He was forced to swallow David Carr for an entire season, so that alone makes me think he's not going to be that patient. It won't take him long to figure out if Yates has it or not.
Just curious, how was Gary forced to swallow Carr? Kubiak told McNair he could work with David. Even if we are to believe that Kubiak thought that was his way to get the job, it was his choice.
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Just curious, how was Gary forced to swallow Carr? Kubiak told McNair he could work with David. Even if we are to believe that Kubiak thought that was his way to get the job, it was his choice.
Would you like to be shot through the head or through the heart? It was his choice becomes an absurd argument at times.
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Would you like to be shot through the head or through the heart? It was his choice becomes an absurd argument at times.
I vote HEAD SHOT for whoever brought up "that name" again and turned this into another HWSNBN thread!

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I vote HEAD SHOT for whoever brought up "that name" again and turned this into another HWSNBN thread!

Agreed... let's not let this thread degenerate into yet another HWSNBN argument
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HWSNBN???

David Carr or Vince Young or Ryan "I love my Oxi-cotton" Leaf?????
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HWSNBN???

David Carr or Vince Young or Ryan "I love my Oxi-cotton" Leaf?????
Has Carr had a better pro career than VY?
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I think Tannehill drops and Kubiak gets an Aggie Boner and we get our next QB.
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I think Tannehill drops and Kubiak gets an Aggie Boner and we get our next QB.
No chance he drops out of the top 10. Some QB desperate team is going to leverage their entire future on him.
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No chance he drops out of the top 10. Some QB desperate team is going to leverage their entire future on him.
That may happen, or it may not.

The NFL tends to go on trends based on prior years.

A lot of teams reached on QB's last year that may not become franchise guys, so I wouldn't be surprised to see teams go in the opposite direction this year.

Last year was kind of rare with 3 QB's going in the top 10 and 4 in the top 12.Yes it happens, but more often than not it doesn't.

I would not be surprised to see a lot of these teams that have shown interest in Tannehill pass him up with their first round picks and try to trade back up into the first like the Browns did for Brady Quinn.

I think it's very likely he goes in the top half of the draft, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if he fell. Look at Rodgers when Alex Smith was taken with the #1.
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No chance he drops out of the top 10. Some QB desperate team is going to leverage their entire future on him.
Ummm, what? If the Dolphins take him with the 8th pick, I wouldn't call it their entire future. It's one pick, and no one is trading their whole draft to move up and get him at #3.
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That may happen, or it may not.

The NFL tends to go on trends based on prior years.

A lot of teams reached on QB's last year that may not become franchise guys, so I wouldn't be surprised to see teams go in the opposite direction this year.

Last year was kind of rare with 3 QB's going in the top 10 and 4 in the top 12.Yes it happens, but more often than not it doesn't.

I would not be surprised to see a lot of these teams that have shown interest in Tannehill pass him up with their first round picks and try to trade back up into the first like the Browns did for Brady Quinn.

I think it's very likely he goes in the top half of the draft, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if he fell. Look at Rodgers when Alex Smith was taken with the #1.
I agree with this. Alot of the QB hungry teams might just wait and see because there will still be some good talent in the 2nd round on those QBs and Tannehill could fall for that reason alone.

Indianapolis (2-14) Going with Luck
Washington - from St. Louis (2-14) Most likely getting RG3
Minnesota (3-13) Already drafted QB round 1 laster year

Cleveland (4-12) Already have Colt and may go after a RB or WR to add to Colt.

Tampa Bay (4-12) Got their QB in Freeman.

St. Louis - from Washington (5-11) Already got a QB

Jacksonville (5-11) Possibly but they already drafted a QB last year and got an investment in him. They most likely could go for a WR.

Miami (6-10) Matt Moore played well for them and they could afford to wait til the 2nd round. I could see them adding a WR now they lost Marshall.
Carolina (6-10) Cam Newton

Buffalo (6-10) They just paid boat loads for their current QB

Kansas City (7-9) Cassel is who they like.

Seattle (7-9) Matt Flynn

Arizona (8-8) Kolb and the 2nd stringer are going to battle it out.

Dallas (8-8) Got other needs

Philadelphia (8-8) Got other needs

New York Jets (8-8) If you don't know who they have, you don't need to watch football anymore.

Cincinnati - from Oakland (8-8) They got their QB

San Diego (8-8) Rivers

Chicago (8-8) Cutler

Tennessee (9-7) Locker and Hasselbeck

Cincinnati* (9-7)They got their QB

Cleveland - from Atlanta* (10-6) [color="blue"]If he falls here, Cleveland could still take him but you have to assume that if Kendall Wright is still here, they go ahead and take him after drafting Trent Richardson earlier and take a gamble in the 2nd for Tannehill and settle for Weeden if they have to.[/COLOR

]Detroit* (10-6) They got their QBs

Pittsburgh* (12-4)


Denver* (8-8) Well again, if you don't know who their QB is now, please stop watching football.

Houston* (10-6) Former Aggie QB as the head coach, smiling, a GM who is trying to clear cap space for next year with a huge contract pending for his current starting QB who has an injury that I believe noone is sure of and the possibility that he could get hurt, yet again, and would be stuck having to settle for Yates again if he doesn't pick up a QB now.

I'm sorry but he could very easily fall out of the top 15.
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Ummm, what? If the Dolphins take him with the 8th pick, I wouldn't call it their entire future.

The Dolphins have a serviceable QB right now in Matt Moore. If they take Tannehill, sure its one pick, but they will give him the keys right away and let him go whether he's ready or not. If he is then congrats you got your QB, if he's not they will work with him for 3-4 years before admitting it and moving on. Either way, if you take him you're leveraging quite a bit on him being "the guy". If he's not then you just wasted the last 4-5 years and have to start. Sure it's not their "entire future" but I think you know what I mean.

It's one pick, and no one is trading their whole draft to move up and get him at #3.

I disagree. I think somebody will trade up and take him. Just like Jax traded up for Gabbert last year and the Vikes traded up for Ponder. With the new CBA its not as big a risk financially to do so and I think QB needy teams are going to go mad trying to find their guy.
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Ummm, what? If the Dolphins take him with the 8th pick, I wouldn't call it their entire future. It's one pick, and no one is trading their whole draft to move up and get him at #3.
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