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Old 04-01-2012   #1
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Johnathan Joseph #5

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118304-br-nfl-1000-top-100-cornerbacks/page/97

Agility 9
Joseph has the quick feet and loose hips we love in draft prospects. Joseph is a fluid athlete with great body control.

Ball Skills 10
Joseph had four interceptions and eight passes defensed in 2011, but that doesn't begin to tell how quick he was in closing and attacking the ball.

Burn Rate 6
The one area where Joseph comes in lower than expected is his burn rate. Joseph allowed upwards of 58 percent of passes thrown his way to be completed.

Coverage 9
Joseph was targeted just 76 times in 16 games, good for 4.75 per game and amongst the top numbers in the NFL.

Awareness 9
Joseph is rarely out of position, and has the quickness to make adjustments on the fly without being exposed.

Range 9
Has the closing speed to find the ball and get to it in a hurry. Joseph's ability to take a hard angle to the ball is textbook.

Run Defense 6
Will fight through blocks, but isn't a great closer. A better open-field tackler.

Speed 9
Has great speed in space, with enough burst to accelerate after being turned by receivers. Not many players in the league can outrun him.

Tackle 6
An above-average tackler in space, Joseph could do a better job of staying balanced and getting low to power through.

Health 10
Joseph played in every game during the 2011 season.

Overall 83
The play of Johnathan Joseph tells a story of the Houston Texans 2011 season: quiet at first, but by midseason people realized they were both for real. Joseph's play was outstanding, and it catapulted him into the national spotlight as one of the best cornerbacks in the game.

BRICE MCCAIN #22
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rbacks/page/80

Agility 8
McCain is a good overall athlete with the special quickness to play inside against shifty slot receivers.

Ball Skills 7
Has good hands, especially in traffic, and shows the concentration to go up and pick off passes.

Burn Rate 7
McCain is solid, especially considering he's working against receivers running zone routes or picks across the middle. Does an admirable job hanging with guys through the route tree.

Coverage 7
Is targeted a decent amount underneath, but has the quickness to jump routes and can get deep when slot receivers take him upfield.

Awareness 5
Is still learning how to attack players at the line of scrimmage. In 2011, gave up too many routes to the outside.

Range 8
Has very good speed and closing ability, which allows him to extend and reach defenders on the edge.

Run Defense 6
McCain is becoming a better run-defender, but he could improve his technique when fighting off blocks at the line. To play in the slot, he needs to be better against the run.

Speed 9
McCain has top-notch speed, with the burst to get an initial jump on routes and the speed to keep up going deep.

Tackle 7
Shows the ability to locate and drive on the ball. Has quick feet and a strong lower body to power through for the takedown.

Health 10
Healthy for all of the 2011 season.

Overall 74
Brice McCain is one of the NFL's best slot cover corners. He has the quickness and speed in tight spaces to jam receivers on the inside, and then to track them in coverage. He's a quick, 25-year-old rising star, and a player to keep your eye on.

KAREEM JACKSON #48
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rbacks/page/54

Agility 7
Quick and agile, Jackson is a little short on speed and elite footwork.

Ball Skills 5
Shows good hands and a confidence when attacking the ball, but could stand to improve his numbers form last season (one interception and six passes defensed).

Burn Rate 4
Allows a high percentage of completions when tested.

Coverage 6.5
A solid, but inconsistent cover man.

Awareness 5.5
Good understanding of offenses and how to read routes.

Range 6
Jackson needs to improve his ability to get through busy defensive backfields.

Run Defense 8
Reads the run game well. Excellent positioning.

Speed 7.5
Capable of keeping up with all but the fastest receivers. Showed improved technique that helped mask some of the stiffness in his hips when asked to change direction.

Tackle 8
Technique and timing bring effective results.

Health 9
Good to go for most of the 2011 season.

Overall 66.5
There are people who consider Kareem Jackson a draft bust, but it's too early to make that call for the 20th overall pick in 2010. Jackson quietly had a good sophomore campaign, with two interceptions and 10 passes defensed in 2011.

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They gave Jason Allen a 7.5 in tackling.
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They gave Jason Allen a 7.5 in tackling.
BR is just enthusiasts writing "articles" ... armchair fans.

Plus, think about it: 32 teams, 64 starters ..... Top 100? A lot of sub-par players in top 100.
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I think that means if it was in the open field, Jason Allen had a 7.5% chance of tackling them
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I think that means if it was in the open field, Jason Allen had a 7.5% chance of tackling them
7.5% chance he doesn't get rag-dolled into the end zone.
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Lol at "NFLs Top 100 cornerbacks". How many corners are there in the NFL? BR is a joke.
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Default Re: 3 Texans in NFLs Top 100 Cornerbacks

Couldn't fix the links. Also, Joe Haden and Charles Woodson are not better CBs than Johnathan Joseph.
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Default Re: 3 Texans in NFLs Top 100 Cornerbacks

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Lol at "NFLs Top 100 cornerbacks". How many corners are there in the NFL? BR is a joke.
Most teams play with 5-6 DBs for large percentages of games, so id wager 32 teams and 4 quality CBs per team = 128
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Couldn't fix the links. Also, Joe Haden and Charles Woodson are not better CBs than Johnathan Joseph.
I'll agree that Joseph is better than the both of them, but it is impressive of Haden to play as well as he did across the board considering the unit he has around him.

If Haden got to play on the Texans and had the benefit of our elite pass rush, we'd all be proudly boasting we have the the two best corners in the game.
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remember when marshell pretty much carried allen into the endzone
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The entire Bleacher Report site and community needs to be done away with execution-style.
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remember when marshell pretty much carried allen into the endzone
Yes, and thanks for reminding us.
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