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I found this article on PFF and thought y'all might enjoy the read. I'm so glad we were able to sign him and JJo Quote:
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good find. i think its true from all the safety play i have seen over the years he is def the top i have seen in a texans uniform and prob a top 3-5 in the league right now.
I like the rotation of him and Nolan with Quin in there as well
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I've seen a few takes through last season where people didn't seem to rate him or Quin that highly.
I think good safety play is likely something you don't really notice unless you're skilled at analysing it. You'll get the odd INT and what-have-you but the real skill is in allowing the CB to make the plays by covering the completion. We saw from Wilson and Pollard a year ago exactly what happens if you have poor safeties/a scheme that doesn't suit them (I believe the latter is true of Pollard, he needs to be handled a certain way to make the most of him). I've also noticed that the Safeties who do get a lot of highlight plays around the league, seem to trade off some big negative plays to get them. Maybe Polomalu is getting a bit long in the tooth, but how many times was he hopelessly out of position on a big play last season. Would we really trade a few more highlight plays both positive & negative vs the sure and steady work we saw from our back end, which helped JoJo on to an elite season and KJax/Allen to look serviceable. I'll take what we've got thanks.
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On the whole Nnamdi side, look back through the massive thread we had on here at the time, I was as up for signing the guy as anyone, at whatever cost. As soon as we took JoJo I straight away said I thought it was a great move in its own right especially as it freed up some extra cash to spend elsewhere over what Asomugha would have cost us. I took a hit or two then for being 'revisionist' as I remember, but in the end it proved to be the right move for our team. If you think Wade Smith was saying 'hell no' at the thought of signing a guy of Asomugha's quality then you are sorely mistaken, I also think the organisation as a whole went pretty hard after their 2nd choice in JoJo as I doubt he'd have wanted to sign here if he felt he was the backup plan. I didn't watch much of Philly this past year but I bet Nnamdi wasn't being used to his best talent, I think JoJo was. You can't rag on Rick Smith for making that move, there are plenty of other moves you could, like the amount he's paid the likes of Ryans, Winston etc thats ended up with them off this team (although not making the bold move to shed those contracts before they begin to hurt us).
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Easily the best safety I've ever seen in a Texans uniform.
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I know this isn't related to on the field play, but does anyone else think he's uber underrated in Madden?
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In 2010, Manning with Chicago was rated 7th by PFF.
In 2011, Manning with Houston was rated 31st by PFF for safties taking >50% of team's snaps. |
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That's not exactly saying much. What other even passable safeties have the Texans had?
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Signings like these two guys (Manning and Joseph) really make me wonder and question the folks who are terrified of free agent signings and think that any move of this kind will end in disaster.
This was the best off season the Texans ever had because of how these two really helped out our horrible secondary. Free Agency is the best way to fill holes as long as you're going after a quality individual that doesn't show signs of being a "contract player." |
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And I dont think it's a coincedence that the yr that Wade became the DC, the Texans got it right in FA/draft on aquiring for the defense. What was the difference in the defense last yr and every other yr in Texans history on defense? Did Rick all of the sudden get it after all of these yrs? Lets be honest here. |
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Rick Smith doesn't coach the defense, however he did supply the defense with talent through the draft and free agency: Antonio Smith, Connor Barwin, Brian Cushing, Troy Nolan, Brice McCain, Darryl Sharpton, Glover Quin, Earl Mitchell.
You can criticize Rick Smith for putting the defense in Frank Bush's hands and not hiring an adequate coordinator, but you can't knock Smith for drafting defense poorly and doing a poor job in free agency. |
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The Texans went big in FA last year and it paid off. They hit on their guys. But that doesn't mean that being a big player in FA every year going after the big names is a winning strategy. You've got to pick your shots and you need to build the core of the team with great drafting and with good scouting of the lesser known FAs. The biggest danger is going after system guys or guys that are past their prime.
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No he's not. Bob McNair was the major player in bringing in Wade, with Kubiak also having influence having a previous relationship with Phillips during Gary's playing days in Denver.
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Danieal Manning a superstar? Surely the ghost of Matt Stevens and all the other miserable safetys along the way are cringing.
Manning is easily the best safety this team has ever had.
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I do think Quinn is underrated by this board as he is sure tackler as they come. Not to mention he gets better every year he plays and this was his first year at safety. Expecting an even bigger year from him this season.
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