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Old 03-28-2012   #21
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He's certainly not saying anything definitive. Seems like he's just being optimistic as he should be.
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The Texans should hire away from Green Bay's scout, "Zo" White (still lives here) and ask him what or how Green Bay made decisions to either trade for or draft back-up QB's... Green Bay either traded for OR drafted, Brett Favre, Matt Hassleback and Aaron Rodgers to "back-up" their, then QB.
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The Texans should hire away from Green Bay's scout, "Zo" White (still lives here) and ask him what or how Green Bay made decisions to either trade for or draft back-up QB's... Green Bay either traded for OR drafted, Brett Favre, Matt Hassleback and Aaron Rodgers to "back-up" their, then QB.
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With all the loses in free agency, with Foster and Myers re-signing with the team, and the draftees, it's Schaub who's the key to this season. He must not only be healthy, but I believe he has to have the best year of his career if we are going to be Super Bowl contenders. A lot is riding on his shoulders and we'll go as far as he can take us. T.J.Yates did a very good job as a rookie and he'll be better in his 2nd year, but Schaub knows this offense like the back of his hand (probably better actually). So, get healthy Schaub and I hope he's working on his decision making and getting ready to lead us deep into the playoffs.
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Absolutely!!!

Lest we be so ignorant that the possibility of Schaub never returning and that we don't have a future plan. I know, I know, TJ Yates is in the wings - "waiting"...

Fine, but is he really the future of the Texans??

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Keenum in the 2nd...that's a pretty bold prediction. Most projections I've seen for him is 7th round or UDFA.
I also predicted Chris Johnson would be drafted in the 1st round, and a lot of the better draft gurus here on TexansTalk had him at nothing higher than the 2nd. I said, "I watched him play his bowl game in Hawaii and he was solid nails. He was going bananas. He's the real deal." Yeah, well...it remains to be seen if he has sustainability, but I got the short-term prediction correct.

I have this gut feeling that some team is going to go Kevin Kolb on him and grab him in Round 2. Somebody is going to roll the dice in Round 2 because they don't really like any other Round 2 choices that are there for them.

I might be all wrong. Will be interesting to see!
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Absolutely!!!

Lest we be so ignorant that the possibility of Schaub never returning and that we don't have a future plan. I know, I know, TJ Yates is in the wings - "waiting"...

Fine, but is he really the future of the Texans??

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Tried to rep you and it said I must spread the rep. I thought it was yesterday. 1979? Oh my! One of us has to double up on our meds!
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I think keenum in the 2 or 3 is a huuuuuuuuge reach. I'd be pissed if the Texans took him there. I love the guy and am a huge UH fan, but he has a weak arm and will struggle to adapt to NFL defenses. He benefited from playing some weak d's. Don't get me wrong, I think he's smart an will be a great back up, but I don't see him as a starting QB. If they got him in the 6 or 7 i'd be ecstatic though.
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The Texans should hire away from Green Bay's scout, "Zo" White (still lives here) and ask him what or how Green Bay made decisions to either trade for or draft back-up QB's... Green Bay either traded for OR drafted, Brett Favre, Matt Hassleback and Aaron Rodgers to "back-up" their, then QB.
Yep. We need a vet this year due to the possibility of the lisfranc being career ending. Some chatter re: Dennis Dixon. I would've liked Josh Johnson.
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With all the loses in free agency, with Foster and Myers re-signing with the team, and the draftees, it's Schaub who's the key to this season. He must not only be healthy, but I believe he has to have the best year of his career if we are going to be Super Bowl contenders. A lot is riding on his shoulders and we'll go as far as he can take us. T.J.Yates did a very good job as a rookie and he'll be better in his 2nd year, but Schaub knows this offense like the back of his hand (probably better actually). So, get healthy Schaub and I hope he's working on his decision making and getting ready to lead us deep into the playoffs.
Emphatically disagree.

We are Super Bowl contenders with or without Schaub.

Our defense and our running game makes us such. Also, as a point of interest TJ Yates had this same system under Butch Davis at NC for five years (red-shirt as freshman). Matt has played in 64 games in his five years with the Texans. TJ started 44 games in his four years and also has the red-shirt year of tutelage. As far as who knows the system better ... I would say it is a wash. TJ is a better athlete, and doesn't have the track record of injuries.

We can win with TJ in my opinion, if he gets the reps and experience as the starter with the first team. Similar to Dilfer with the Ravens, he doesn't have to carry the team, just manage a clean game and use his weapons.
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Emphatically disagree.

We are Super Bowl contenders with or without Schaub.

Our defense and our running game makes us such. Also, as a point of interest TJ Yates had this same system for five years in college (red-shirt as freshman). Matt has played in 64 games in his five years with the Texans. TJ started 44 games in his four years and also has the red-shirt year of tutelage. As far as who knows the system better ... I would say it is a wash. TJ is a better athlete, and doesn't have the track record of injuries.

We can win with TJ in my opinion, if he gets the reps and experience as the starter with the first team. Similar to Dilfer with the Ravens, he doesn't have to carry the team, just manage a clean game and use his weapons.

I like Yates a lot, but I disagree with most of what you have written here...

Schaub played in a similar system in college and in ATL. That is part of the reason that he was so attractive to this staff. Plus, the Texans system has it's own nuances that make it different from other schemes....No way does Yates know what we do here better than Schaub does...that makes 0 sense...

Also, I do not know whether we are superbowl contenders with or without Schaub or whatever...I need to see the team fully assembled and playing a few games first...

Lots of fans seem to think that just because we did well last year, it's a given that we will have similar or better success. Yes we did very well last year, but other teams are trying to get better. We should attempt to do the same. I think it is much, much too early to declare at this point in time that we are superbowl contenders with or without Schaub. (well I guess it depends on your definition of contender)
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No way does Yates know what we do here better than Schaub does...that makes 0 sense...
Did not say that. The comment I was addressing was that Schaub "knows this system like the back of his hand" ... so does Yates. The difference whether one of them "knows what we do here" better IMHO is game experience, which Matt obviously has over Yates. So, my contention is that given Scaubs inability to stay healthy, and the concern if this time the injury sustained will let him return to full capability, or at all ... give the kid the snaps so he can garner that experience. If that were to happen I would like our chances.
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Did not say that. The comment I was addressing was that Schaub "knows this system like the back of his hand" ... so does Yates. The difference whether one of them "knows what we do here" better IMHO is game experience, which Matt obviously has over Yates. So, my contention is that given Scaubs inability to stay healthy, and the concern if this time the injury sustained will let him return to full capability, or at all ... give the kid the snaps so he can garner that experience. If that were to happen I would like our chances.
I guess my point was that it's not even close as to who knows the system better.

If Schaub can't go, then I think it's a given that someone else will have to fill in.

That someone is very likely to be TJ.

Are you saying that if Schaub is healthy enough to give it the ol' college try that we should still play Yates in the regular season so he can get experience?
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Are you saying that if Schaub is healthy enough to give it the ol' college try that we should still play Yates in the regular season so he can get experience?
I am saying because of the nature of Matts injury, and the progression of the recovery from surgery (has not even had the last hardware removed yet), that I think we go to camp with TJ as our starter, and see how Matt progresses. If and when Matt is 100% recovered and ready (if that ever happens) then we look at plugging him back into the starting role UNLESS ... TJ is lighting it up and team is clicking and then we have a decision to make. What would my decision be if that turned out to be the case? Thanks Matt, but we have just traded you to ...
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