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Old 03-21-2012   #21
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Yeah, and hopefully Schaub will turn into Brady...
IDK if he's on the level of Brady Quinn just yet.
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I'd be all for trading OD now if we could get something decent for him. I'd take a 3rd round pick.
I'm not for trading Daniels... He's one player actually worth what he's making now... He was clutch in key situations last year... I don't mean he caught good balls like he was supposed to, he turned a few trash passes into first downs.. he's a big threat..

I want OD here in this offense...
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I think you guys have the wrong picture for how the offense works. Kukiak system has two tight ends. One is a more run-oriented tight end such as Mark Bruenner and Joel Dressen. The other tight end is more receiving oriented like Owen Daniels. Each tight participates in the other area, that is run-oriented tight end catches and pass-oriented tight end receives. However, each has a specialty.

Having said that, Garrett Graham is a receiving-oriented tight end. If he had stepped up, then OD would be expendable. As such, he is currently a backup if OD goes down. I believe if Dreesen is signed by another team (which I do not expect), then the run-oriented starter is not currently on the roster.
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But isn't Casey another run-oriented TE? (I mean when he's on the field and not acting as a FB)
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Casey is a possibility. As a player, he gives the team a lot of flexibility. I think he is likely to remain FB and that they would look some where else to replace Dreesen.

I still believe that Dreesen in a Texans uniform is the most likely outcome.
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I think you guys have the wrong picture for how the offense works. Kukiak system has two tight ends. One is a more run-oriented tight end such as Mark Bruenner and Joel Dressen. The other tight end is more receiving oriented like Owen Daniels. Each tight participates in the other area, that is run-oriented tight end catches and pass-oriented tight end receives. However, each has a specialty.

Having said that, Garrett Graham is a receiving-oriented tight end. If he had stepped up, then OD would be expendable. As such, he is currently a backup if OD goes down. I believe if Dreesen is signed by another team (which I do not expect), then the run-oriented starter is not currently on the roster.
Where are you getting this from?
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I think you guys have the wrong picture for how the offense works. Kukiak system has two tight ends. One is a more run-oriented tight end such as Mark Bruenner and Joel Dressen. The other tight end is more receiving oriented like Owen Daniels. Each tight participates in the other area, that is run-oriented tight end catches and pass-oriented tight end receives. However, each has a specialty.

Having said that, Garrett Graham is a receiving-oriented tight end. If he had stepped up, then OD would be expendable. As such, he is currently a backup if OD goes down. I believe if Dreesen is signed by another team (which I do not expect), then the run-oriented starter is not currently on the roster.
Huh???

Kubiak inherited Bruener in 2006. Sure he stuck around for two years under Kubiak but Owen was drafted that same year.

Is Dreessen a better blocker than OD? Sure, but that's not why Dreessen sees the field exclusively. This just in, Kubiak likes versatile TE's. OD, Dreessen, James Casey and *ahem* Shannon Sharpe types. I'm not sure about Graham, simply because I haven't seen enough of him, but at the same time I'm sure he fits the same mold.
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Here is one example of an article talking about Texans liking both a running and a blocking tight end in two TE formation sets with a touch of history to go with it. I'm sure I could dip back to even Kubiak's days with the Broncos to show it further.

http://www.examiner.com/houston-texa...-end-addiction
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With Dreessen interviewing in Bengals, he would still be interviewing for a backup job. The Bengals' TE Jermaine Gresham had a very good year for them.......and they have always run single TE formations.

Since going to the Bengals would:

A) not be to enjoy a nonchaotic atmosphere

B) not be for a starting position

C) not be to be in a high-powered offense

Then the only reason he would sign would be for significantly more money........which he may not be offered for a backup position.

He has been a very "clutch" player for the Texans. My guess is that the Texans will probably be given the chance to match a Bengals offer. Now whether they can or not...............
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Here is one example of an article talking about Texans liking both a running and a blocking tight end in two TE formation sets with a touch of history to go with it. I'm sure I could dip back to even Kubiak's days with the Broncos to show it further.

http://www.examiner.com/houston-texa...-end-addiction
The person who wrote that used to post here quite frequently...I wouldn't take that article as gospel even though I'm sure there's some good information in it.

I didn't read the article, but I skimmed over it and I didn't see any quotes from the team saying this.

Dreesen is a decent blocker and so is OD, but where they help this team the most is with their pass catching.

The only big run blocking type of TE that I can remember us drafting was Hill and he's no longer with the team...

Casey, OD, and Grahm are all more pass catcher than run blockers, though I wouldn't say they are bad at run blocking...
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Yeah, there was really only one Graham on the field tonight against the Saints, and it wasn't that * cough * kicker, and his name wasn't Jimmy, either.

4 catches for 97 yards.

In fact, this TE by the name of Garrett Graham is the Texans' leading pre-season reciever.

7 catches, 141 yards, 20.1 yards average.

That's not average.
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Graham was impressive tonight. It's good to finally see him stepping up.
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I was never worried about Graham in the passing game.

That said, let's see him catch some ball in the regular season.
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I was never worried about Graham in the passing game.

That said, let's see him catch some ball in the regular season.
Agree. But I watched him in the blocking scheme and saw him seemingly weak and sometimes almost lost.
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Joel who?.....I am not worried about that anymore.
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Oh wait, wrong Graham.
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Graham was fantastic in the passing game tonight.
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GGraham was pretty impressive today. He'll probably be like Joel where most defenses doesn't cover him and he'll end up hurting them. This will pretty much be his first season since he hasn't played much the last two year. Watch out for him.

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Agree. But I watched him in the blocking scheme and saw him seemingly weak and sometimes almost lost.
I'll go back and watch him.
Our TEs lost out on the block from time to time (including Dreessen) and I know I complaint about OD a few years back as well.

Blocking wasn't Graham's forte out of college, but it wasn't a weakness, either.
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He was getting WIDE open last night. Definitely has the hands to replace Dreesen and even rumbled down the field too. Trade off is blocking but I think with reps he'll be a competent blocker.
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