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Old 03-20-2012   #1
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Default Graham's got this!(Garrett)

I'm surprised there's less talk about Garrett Graham with the possible loss of Joel Dreesen. After all, this is what Graham's been groomed for, and he'll be only 26 years old when the season starts.

With Dreesen almost certainly moving on, that leaves the Texans with less TEs then they are used to, but adding one late in the draft should cure that.

Otherwise, Graham has got this. Really.

At 6'3" and 241lbs he's a OD clone, and that's why he was drafted, not to mention the fact that he had a better collegiate career than Daniels...both Badgers, of course.

OD - 62 receptions, 852 yards, 8 TDs - 3 years
GG - 121 receptions, 1492 yards, 16 TDs - 3 years


When Graham was drafted remember the talk about Kubiak consulting OD on drafting Graham? I think they were only half joking, but the thing OD said, which has been confirmed by team mates is that Garrett has really good hands. Though Graham has not seen a lot of NFL action, he's looked really good in pre-season - exceptional even, in that I believe he caught everything thrown to him. His sole regular season pass was a 24 yard reception, having been used primarily as a blocker in 13 games with the Texans. He's a solid blocker.

I hope this kid is chomping at the bit, because we're sure to see a lot of him next season.

This is interesting: Garrett Graham on Kevin Zeitler way back in 09
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Default Re: Graham's got this!

He or Casey could step in for Dreesen and the offense would not miss a beat. Graham certainly has talent catching the ball, I was at the game where he got open for a long pass, he's quick. And since he played for Wisconsin I'm guessing he knows a thing or two about run blocking. Daniels, Graham and Casey on the field at the same time. Unlimited safety valve potential lol...Nobody should ever get sacked.
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I remember what Kubiak said about Graham and him consulting with OD, it's been very disappointing that a guy Kubiak thinks so highly of can't get on the field. Was Kubiak pumping sunshine up our ass? I'm thinking we will lose Dreesen to FA and hopefully promote Graham so that he get's some significant playing time and experience. I can see Graham being OD's replacement at this time next year if he plays well and no injuries with the possibility of losing OD to salary cap issues. I eagerly await seeing what Graham can do if given the chance.
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doesn't excite me much...I'm expecting a 4th round TE in the draft
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Hopefully we'll land a Gronk or Hernandez in the draft...
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I remember what Kubiak said about Graham and him consulting with OD, it's been very disappointing that a guy Kubiak thinks so highly of can't get on the field. Was Kubiak pumping sunshine up our ass? I'm thinking we will lose Dreesen to FA and hopefully promote Graham so that he get's some significant playing time and experience. I can see Graham being OD's replacement at this time next year if he plays well and no injuries with the possibility of losing OD to salary cap issues. I eagerly await seeing what Graham can do if given the chance.
I think it had more to do with the depth we had at TE for the last couple of years. At one time remember we had OD, Dreesen, Hill, Casey & Graham. Hill saw more action at first, because he had been with the team a year longer. Yet Hill was promptly cut and Graham wasn't.

No, Graham is the real deal. He's just a victim of the pecking order. But yeah, I'm with Vinny, we really get another TE in this year's draft, but I'm with you Wolf, that depending on Graham's play, he might replace OD. Maybe.

I'm thinking James Hanna in the 6th round.
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I think it had more to do with the depth we had at TE for the last couple of years. At one time remember we had OD, Dreesen, Hill, Casey & Graham. Hill saw more action at first, because he had been with the team a year longer. Yet Hill was promptly cut and Graham wasn't.

No, Graham is the real deal. He's just a victim of the pecking order. But yeah, I'm with Vinny, we really get another TE in this year's draft, but I'm with you Wolf, that depending on Graham's play, he might replace OD. Maybe.

I'm thinking James Hanna in the 6th round.

With OD's salary and Grahams potential I wouldn't mind a trade of OD like they just did with Demeco, trading the guy a year before we cut him. It seems maybe that Rick Smith is learning from Belichick.
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With OD's salary and Grahams potential I wouldn't mind a trade of OD like they just did with Demeco, trading the guy a year before we cut him. It seems maybe that Rick Smith is learning from Belichick.
Buddy and I were just talking about the 2 guys we'd trade and Meco and OD were at the top of our list. Jacoby and Leinart would be the other 2 we'd release after camp.
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Default Re: Graham's got this!

I think Jacoby gets cut at the end of training camp as well. Kubiak will want to keep him around until he sees what he's gotten with new draft picks or the guys from last years practice squad. Jacoby is nothing more than a security blanket at this point just in case everyone sucks in training camp.

The 4 players that I could see getting cut at the end of next season or traded now due to salary issues are Demeco, OD, Cody, and Antonio Smith. Each have been here for a while, getting older and more expensive, or will be an expensive FA next year. We just traded Demeco so that only leaves 3.
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I think Jacoby gets cut at the end of training camp as well. Kubiak will want to keep him around until he sees what he's gotten with new draft picks or the guys from last years practice squad. Jacoby is nothing more than a security blanket at this point just in case everyone sucks in training camp.

The 4 players that I could see getting cut at the end of next season or traded now due to salary issues are Demeco, OD, Cody, and Antonio Smith. Each have been here for a while, getting older and more expensive, or will be an expensive FA next year. We just traded Demeco so that only leaves 3.
Meco is already gone. OD, Cody, and Smith I feel will all be in a different jersey come 2013.
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Yeah, and hopefully Schaub will turn into Brady...
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The guy hasn't done anything and couldn't even beat out a journeyman in Dreeson. Color me unimpressed.
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The guy hasn't done anything and couldn't even beat out a journeyman in Dreeson. Color me unimpressed.
I don't think it was Graham's inability to beat out Dreesen, I think it was Kubiaks fear of young players in favor of veterans. I think trusting a youngster scares the hell out of Kubiak.
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I don't think he's the answer.

I can't remember fully, but there's reasons he isn't even TE2 here. But there's nothing like losing Dreessen to change all of that in a hurry.

IF we lose Dreessen.

We'll need to hire a grief counselor for the TT message board if we trade OD. Seriously.
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I don't think he's the answer.

I can't remember fully, but there's reasons he isn't even TE2 here. But there's nothing like losing Dreessen to change all of that in a hurry.

IF we lose Dreessen.

We'll need to hire a grief counselor for the TT message board if we trade OD. Seriously.
Actually I wish we would trade him now.
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I was very high on Graham coming out of college. I was thrilled when we selected him.

I don't see it as a negative that he couldn't beat out Daniels and Dreesen immediately. For some reason it seems like the board likes to dog Dreesen but it's not like he is a scrub. He had twice as many receiving TDs as anyone else on the team last season. Sure, he isn't the greatest athlete but he gets the job done.
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I was very high on Graham coming out of college. I was thrilled when we selected him.

I don't see it as a negative that he couldn't beat out Daniels and Dreesen immediately. For some reason it seems like the board likes to dog Dreesen but it's not like he is a scrub. He had twice as many receiving TDs as anyone else on the team last season. Sure, he isn't the greatest athlete but he gets the job done.
Agree with all of this. I was very high on him as well when he came out and was ecstatic when we drafted him. Kid can play and it looks like this year he'll finally get to show it.
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Actually I wish we would trade him now.
I'd be all for trading OD now if we could get something decent for him. I'd take a 3rd round pick.
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