Mike Wallace to the Texans Petition

[Porky]

Why is this even up for discussion? I've got more chance of being named Romney's running mate. Ain't gonna happen. Let's get back to a real subject shall we instead of playing in fantasy land.

/end thread.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

He still has a good amount of signing bonus and restructure money left on his deal. Trading him would accelerate all of that to the current year, and hamstring our chances of re-signing Schaub, Barwin and Brown. AJ needs to stay on the books for at least two more years, unless he plans on retiring, or he needs to do a minimum deal extension and restructure to spread out the next few years of salary.

I'm not saying we can't keep AJ as it stands right now, but his contract is going to hurt the team in a year or two to the point that we may have to let some of our better up and coming talent go.

Thanks Dutch,

Re-signing Schaub may be the least of the Texans problems if he hurts his foot again.

I get what you're saying about AJ. Looks like the Texans are going to be in a pickle for the next couple of yrs.

BTW Dutch, what do you think of the Texans cap guy/management? Who is their cap guy?

[False Start]

I'm gonna start a "Mila Kunis to my bedroom petition" thread. It has about as much of a chance of happening as the Texans getting a big name WR.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Thanks Dutch,

Re-signing Schaub may be the least of the Texans problems if he hurts his foot again.

I get what you're saying about AJ. Looks like the Texans are going to be in a pickle for the next couple of yrs.

BTW Dutch, what do you think of the Texans cap guy/management? Who is their cap guy?

The Texans' "cap guru" (every team has one) is Chris Olsen.

Chris Olsen enters his fourth season with the Texans and first as the team’s vice president of football administration. He spent 13 years working at the NFL league office in New York. Olsen’s primary responsibility with the Texans is to work closely with general manager Rick Smith on negotiating player contracts and managing the salary cap.

Olsen served as the manager of labor operations with the NFL Management Council from 1999-2006. He was responsible for reviewing and analyzing player contracts to ensure teams were in compliance with the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) and salary cap. He provided assistance to club executives pertaining to player-related areas of the CBA. He also served as a League liaison to the NFL Players Association regarding player contract matters. In addition, he served as a national game representative and as an instant replay communicator.

...

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/st...2-4842f91a411d


Honestly, it's hard to say how good cap management is per team because we really don't know all the numbers, nor do we know what other teams are offering the guys we sign. Last year I thought we would have a ton of cap space going into the offseason due to Mario's expiring deal, but it turned out to be a lot less due to contract escalators and wrongly reported contract numbers for other players. I think you need to evaluate each deal as the information is given to really gauge how well they are managing the cap.

The one that has stuck out to me is Winston, because they could have traded his 2 years 9 million non-guaranteed deal to anyone. Instead they cut him for nothing and then he signed a 4 year 22 million dollar deal. It makes no sense to me at all that they couldn't find a trade partner or that they were in a position where they were forced to cut him that day due to cap constraints. That's not very good planning IMO.

The Demeco trade made sense to me, we needed to bite the bullet and take the cap**** so that we can re-sign Brown, Barwin and/or Schaub. Letting guys like Jason Allen and Brisiel walk are the right decisions. Resigning Foster to a competitive deal was a good move, resigning Myers was a good move. The cap considerations for both of them seem reasonable given their talent levels. The Manning and JJo deals seem very reasonable too.

The biggest cap concerns on the books right now are AJ's contract starting next year and Antonio Smith's contract. AJ's not going anywhere for a while because he has something like 10-12 million in restructure bonus money to be paid out. Moving him would wreck the cap next year. Smith will likely be cut or traded next year to save on his 6 million dollar salary, but will still be paid 2.5 million in unpaid signing bonus. It's a good amount of savings though, and he seems replaceable to me. If it comes down to Barwin OR Smith, I choose Barwin.

I don't think the Texans' cap management is bad per se, but it's not perfect. There is always room for improvement, but if I had to guess I would say the Texans' would be in the top 12 when it comes to cap management. What I really want to see from them this year is the re-signing of Duane Brown for about $10 million a year for 5-7 years, and have that franchise tag available to use on to Schaub or Barwin. That to me would be some cap-fu negotiating magic if they can get Brown for that much and still re-sign one of the other two. If they work a deal to keep all three, barring a collosal injury to one of them, then they will become masters of the cap universe IMO.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

The Texans' "cap guru" (every team has one) is Chris Olsen.




http://www.houstontexans.com/team/st...2-4842f91a411d


Honestly, it's hard to say how good cap management is per team because we really don't know all the numbers, nor do we know what other teams are offering the guys we sign. Last year I thought we would have a ton of cap space going into the offseason due to Mario's expiring deal, but it turned out to be a lot less due to contract escalators and wrongly reported contract numbers for other players. I think you need to evaluate each deal as the information is given to really gauge how well they are managing the cap.

The one that has stuck out to me is Winston, because they could have traded his 2 years 9 million non-guaranteed deal to anyone. Instead they cut him for nothing and then he signed a 4 year 22 million dollar deal. It makes no sense to me at all that they couldn't find a trade partner or that they were in a position where they were forced to cut him that day due to cap constraints. That's not very good planning IMO.

The Demeco trade made sense to me, we needed to bite the bullet and take the cap**** so that we can re-sign Brown, Barwin and/or Schaub. Letting guys like Jason Allen and Brisiel walk are the right decisions. Resigning Foster to a competitive deal was a good move, resigning Myers was a good move. The cap considerations for both of them seem reasonable given their talent levels. The Manning and JJo deals seem very reasonable too.

The biggest cap concerns on the books right now are AJ's contract starting next year and Antonio Smith's contract. AJ's not going anywhere for a while because he has something like 10-12 million in restructure bonus money to be paid out. Moving him would wreck the cap next year. Smith will likely be cut or traded next year to save on his 6 million dollar salary, but will still be paid 2.5 million in unpaid signing bonus. It's a good amount of savings though, and he seems replaceable to me. If it comes down to Barwin OR Smith, I choose Barwin.

I don't think the Texans' cap management is bad per se, but it's not perfect. There is always room for improvement, but if I had to guess I would say the Texans' would be in the top 12 when it comes to cap management. What I really want to see from them this year is the re-signing of Duane Brown for about $10 million a year for 5-7 years, and have that franchise tag available to use on to Schaub or Barwin. That to me would be some cap-fu negotiating magic if they can get Brown for that much and still re-sign one of the other two. If they work a deal to keep all three, barring a collosal injury to one of them, then they will become masters of the cap universe IMO.

Thanks for the reply

MSR

This is the most indepth analysis I've seen of the Texans past cap screwups/good moves they've made and a look at the future cap health/problems.

I wonder what BoB/Rick/Gary will do if Schaub only plays 10 games this yr?

[badboy]

Originally Posted by False Start

I'm gonna start a "Mila Kunis to my bedroom petition" thread. It has about as much of a chance of happening as the Texans getting a big name WR.

If we can get an accurate guage of your cap space, maybe we can start a thread about you Mila.