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Old 03-19-2012   #21
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I might be in the minority here, but I'm as giddy as a school girl with the offseason moves. The only thing I really see to gripe about is they haven't cut Jones and re-signed Dreesen.
I'm interested in what our ufa receivers from last season look like this year.
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What is this place coming to???

Geez Louise.

Why would we pay Mike Wallace upwards of 8 or 9 or 10 million when we can draft and pay a rookie WR a paltry rookie salary for like, oh I don't know...four years?

We also have Lestar Jean for those with short memories. He was turning into a preseason sensation before getting hurt and I.R.'d. Him and Yates were clickin' like boneless chicken in the preseason.

Has boredom reduced us to this? Stay strong out there, guys. Meet back here tomorrow and run your thread ideas through me before posting them. I will help sort out the good ideas from the bad ideas.


Od damn GP, you made milk come out my nose on that one. Don't remember the last time I rep'd ya, but that was some funny **** right there, I don't care who you are.
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Why would we pay Mike Wallace upwards of 8 or 9 or 10 million when we can draft and pay a rookie WR a paltry rookie salary for like, oh I don't know...four years?
Because drafting a first round wide receiver is a crap shoot and there is no guarantee that they will be successful in the NFL.

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We also have Lestar Jean for those with short memories. He was turning into a preseason sensation before getting hurt
"preseason sensation" and "before getting hurt" are two phrases that do not instill a lot of confidence in me.
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Because drafting a first round wide receiver is a crap shoot and there is no guarantee that they will be successful in the NFL.



"preseason sensation" and "before getting hurt" are two phrases that do not instill a lot of confidence in me.
Drafting a 1st round <insert position here> is a crap shoot. Hopefully, we draft BPA and it happens to be a position of need. There's no need for the Texans to go reaching, at any position, in this draft.
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Lastly, and I admit less important, I want that comp pick for giving up Mario. Signing Wallace - even if we had the cap room - may well negate that comp pick.
Wallace would not count towards comp picks because he's a RFA. They're separate because otherwise teams would get 2 picks for one player. I still don't think we would sign Wallace simply because of the money. He'd be a clear improvement opposite Andre but we can't afford him.
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GP, I was contemplating starting a Mario Williams is a Bill thread.... Thoughts??


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Yeah I just dont see it. The Texans are more interested in keeping Dreesen, Rackers, Dobbins, Bullman and possibly signing a Shawntae Spencer.
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No one. It would be a dumb move.
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Who else would love to see the Texans give up their #26 pick and sign Mike Wallace from the Steelers?
Schaub can't throw the ball far enough for Wallace lol.
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What is this place coming to???

Geez Louise.

Why would we pay Mike Wallace upwards of 8 or 9 or 10 million when we can draft and pay a rookie WR a paltry rookie salary for like, oh I don't know...four years?

We also have Lestar Jean for those with short memories. He was turning into a preseason sensation before getting hurt and I.R.'d. Him and Yates were clickin' like boneless chicken in the preseason.

Has boredom reduced us to this? Stay strong out there, guys. Meet back here tomorrow and run your thread ideas through me before posting them. I will help sort out the good ideas from the bad ideas.
Ain't it the truth? The disparity in pay between draftees and veterans is, to say the least, unfortunate.
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Because drafting a first round wide receiver is a crap shoot and there is no guarantee that they will be successful in the NFL.



"preseason sensation" and "before getting hurt" are two phrases that do not instill a lot of confidence in me.
Well, I know what we'd have in Mike Wallace...a WR who costs a helluva' lot of money every year AND hurts us on the cap.

Did you see the catches Lestar Jean was making in preseason? It was a acrobatic, twist around in the air, and stick to his hands like glue "stuff." He gets down the field, gets separation and makes catches. he is what Jacoby OUGHT to be right now...but isn't.

He was going to make the roster until he got hurt. That's why we had to sign Derrick Mason and Bryant Johnson toward the halfway part of the year. Had Jean been on the roster, he is WR4. With Jacoby in limbo, I think Jean could become WR3 easily. If he has the sort of camp and preseason like he did last year.

I'd rather draft and pay less than get into another Eric Moulds situation--Where we think we have a quality WR and he doesn't produce as planned. Outside of Kevin Walter, and it's a stretch to even throw Walter into the mix here, the Kubiak era has not been fortunate in signing quality Free Agent WRs.

If we have ANY money to spend, we go after our own guys first...then see what else we can do. And I bet it's not much.
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What is this place coming to???

Geez Louise.

Why would we pay Mike Wallace upwards of 8 or 9 or 10 million when we can draft and pay a rookie WR a paltry rookie salary for like, oh I don't know...four years?

We also have Lestar Jean for those with short memories. He was turning into a preseason sensation before getting hurt and I.R.'d. Him and Yates were clickin' like boneless chicken in the preseason.

Has boredom reduced us to this? Stay strong out there, guys. Meet back here tomorrow and run your thread ideas through me before posting them. I will help sort out the good ideas from the bad ideas.
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Ain't it the truth? The disparity in pay between draftees and veterans is, to say the least, unfortunate.
Its not THAT crazy to fathom. While I dont think it is even an option (Cap wise), the help that a rookie WR can give us vs. the help Mike Wallace can give us is a HUGE disparity. How many rookie WR's come in their first season and tear the league up? 1 in 100?

If we didnt need a replacement for Mario, I would package picks this year and next to jump up and get Blackmon.
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How many rookie WR's come in their first season and tear the league up? 1 in 100?
This offense doesn't need a rookie WR to come in and "tear it up", they just need any WR to come in and be a decent threat/good compliment to AJ...nothing amazing is needed...
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This offense doesn't need a rookie WR to come in and "tear it up", they just need any WR to come in and be a decent threat/good compliment to AJ...nothing amazing is needed...
What does that mean to you? Can I get an example or 2 of this?
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I just don't see a lot of options for the Texans at #26. I think Kevin Walter is going to start over anyone they could draft at that spot, and if the Texans go OLB or DT or offensive line at #26, they won't draft a receiver until the second round and they will probably be #4 on the depth chart behind Jacoby.
what about lestar Jean? I think he is still on the team maybe he has put in the work and is rdy to step up?
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What does that mean to you? Can I get an example or 2 of this?
we need jj with hands.
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What does that mean to you? Can I get an example or 2 of this?
Nothing specific, just a better option than what we had on the field in January... They don't need to be all-world...
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what about lestar Jean? I think he is still on the team maybe he has put in the work and is rdy to step up?
That could be a guy they have great confidence in, and another reason (outside of cap room) they're not chompin' at the bit for a WR in FAgency...
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