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Old 03-16-2012   #1
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Default Cap space as of Thursday

[Editor's note: Many of you have asked for an updated snapshot of team-by-team cap space. Here are the most recent numbers, as of March 15. These are not PFT calculations or estimates, but information regarding the official cap space obtained from a source with knowledge of the numbers. Transactions since Thursday will affect the numbers, obviously.]

Broncos: $40.0 million.

Bengals: $38.9 million.

Seahawks: $28.6 million.

Titans: $26.2 million.

Jaguars: $24.8 million.

49ers: $23.5 million.

Eagles: $22.3 million.

Bills: $22.2 million.

Browns: $21.6 million.

Chiefs: $21.4 million.

Buccaneers: $17.9 million.

Vikings: $18.8 million.

Rams: $14.6 million.

Chargers: $14.5 million.

Dolphins: $14.3 million.

Colts: $14.3 million.

Patriots: $13.6 million.

Bears: $12.8 million.

Jets: $12.7 million.

Redskins: $11.3 million.

Texans: $8.7 million.

Packers: $7.2 million.

Falcons: $6.0 million.

Cowboys: $5.5 million.

Raiders: $5.0 million.

Ravens: $4.7 million.

Panthers: $3.1 million.

Saints: $3.0 million.

Giants: $2.3 million.

Cardinals: $448,000.

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So that's pre-Myers and pre-draft?
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So that's pre-Myers and pre-draft?
I still say numbers that low ($8.7M) have to be taking out the rookie pool for each team already and/or something else. How could we sign Myers for $6.25M/year and still sign our picks when our draft picks that stayed on our team had a cap hit of $5M+ for 2011?

We'd need a similar figure this year. I know we're picking lower, but still it will be over $4M. Myers couldn't be that heavily backloaded, and we're still likely to sign a couple UFAs (at least a kicker).
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How could the Cardinals look for Manning at that level?
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How could the Cardinals look for Manning at that level?
The figure probably assumed they would pay Kolb's bonus and salary because he was on their active roster. the Cards could have cut him if they'd signed Manning prior to paying the bonus.
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How the **** do the Eagles have all that cap space after last years spending fest?
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I still say numbers that low ($8.7M) have to be taking out the rookie pool for each team already and/or something else. How could we sign Myers for $6.25M/year and still sign our picks when our draft picks that stayed on our team had a cap hit of $5M+ for 2011?

We'd need a similar figure this year. I know we're picking lower, but still it will be over $4M. Myers couldn't be that heavily backloaded, and we're still likely to sign a couple UFAs (at least a kicker).
I'd still think that's low. Supposedly Mario & our other 11 free agents were going to clear $30M of cap space. Before Thursday we signed Arian for $8M & a long snapper for what? a million? But cutting Winston, Leinart, & Vickers should have put us back at $30M then Andre's restructure should have put us back over $30M.
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And how do the Bills have that much money after signing Mario. Sounds like bull to me.
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I still say numbers that low ($8.7M) have to be taking out the rookie pool for each team already and/or something else...
I agree, has to be the case.
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Default Re: Cap space as of Thursday

We ought to get a little help from the Cowboys and Redskins (money)........and maybe from the Saints (picks) when all the league penalties are meated out.

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I did a quick total of the numbers listed on the Contract Status sticky thread on this board, estimating salary with bonus and came up with around $100 million give or take...that's before Myers.
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After re-signing C Chris Myers, Texans are $4.2 mil under the cap.
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After re-signing C Chris Myers, Texans are $4.2 mil under the cap.
That's probably enough to sign our rookies and I still think we'll be saving approx. 3 mil. by cutting Jacoby in training camp.
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How could the Cardinals look for Manning at that level?
Quick, sign their capologist!

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How the **** do the Eagles have all that cap space after last years spending fest?
Quick, fire the Cards capologist and sign their capologist!
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I'd still think that's low. Supposedly Mario & our other 11 free agents were going to clear $30M of cap space. Before Thursday we signed Arian for $8M & a long snapper for what? a million? But cutting Winston, Leinart, & Vickers should have put us back at $30M then Andre's restructure should have put us back over $30M.
There were also performance bonuses for players like Brown and McCain.

For a very rough estimate let's assume:
  • Vickers' release and Weeks' re-signing cancel each other out
  • Johnson (+4.5), Winston (+~4?), and Leinart (+~1?) should, at the least, cancel out Foster's cap hit (-8)
  • Myers' cap hit is +~7? and Brown and McCain's bonuses are +2
  • Losing Mario takes -18 off the books

That is an extremely rough estimate, but would leave us with ~$9M of cap room, plus or minus some.

So, the number in the OP should probably be accurate after the Myers re-signing.
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Guys. That is after we signed him in 07. McClain is just a little behind. He will get Thursdays number by 2016.

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Guys. That is after we signed him in 07. McClain is just a little behind. He will get Thursdays number by 2016.

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