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Old 03-16-2012   #61
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No, Kasey is a free agent.
Hell if we want him, we should be able to sign him back for a box of Shipley donuts and a case of beer.

I don't think that guy is going to garnish much interest around the league I don't think anybody even knows who he is outside of Houston.

I'd sign him back for depth and for another body for camp though.
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Damn amateurs trading 6th rounders for stud Centers.
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The salary cap has turned a lot of posters around here into complete morons. I don't know how a lot of you losers can walk five steps with collapsing onto the ground as your knees start jerking. It's March, fools, March. Have your hissy fit later.
Hardly hissy fits and knee jerks. Just differing opinions.

Calling someone a moron just for disagreeing with you doesn't add much to the discussion. However, it gives us an idea of where you are coming from.
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Damn amateurs trading 6th rounders for stud Centers.
Not only that, but picking some jerk who thinks he's a pass defender for a DE. What were they thinking?
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Damn amateurs trading 6th rounders for stud Centers.
If I am interpreting the meaning of this post correctly, I agree 100%.
Its almost a contradiction to bash the FO for letting Myers hit free agency (because he's such a valuable player) while essentially ignoring the fact that it was the same FO that traded for him, trained him in the Texans system, and our him in the position to play at a pro bowl level.
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The salary cap has turned a lot of posters around here into complete morons. I don't know how a lot of you losers can walk five steps with collapsing onto the ground as your knees start jerking. It's March, fools, March. Have your hissy fit later.
Name calling only shows your intelligence. Way to add to the discussion.
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Even in a plain ole household budget, any smart person will look ahead and incorporate next year's realistic "picture" which also incudes money set aside for the unexpected.

Here, it seems that Smith and Co. budgeted for the best case scenario.......and evidently gambled and even overestimated that by a long shot...........and got handed their asses when closer to the worst case scenario (much of which should have been realistically anticipated) raised its ugly head.

Guess they used the same QuickBooks program that Attorney General Geithner used when screwing up his taxes so badly.
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Not only that, but picking some jerk who thinks he's a pass defender for a DE. What were they thinking?
Shot blockers are NOT DEs!!!!! Lololololol
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Even in a plain ole household budget, any smart person will look ahead and incorporate next year's realistic "picture" which also incudes money set aside for the unexpected.

Here, it seems that Smith and Co. budgeted for the best case scenario.......and evidently gambled and even overestimated that by a long shot...........and got handed their asses when closer to the worst case scenario (much of which should have been realistically anticipated) raised its ugly head.

Guess they used the same QuickBooks program that Attorney General Geithner used when screwing up his taxes so badly.
Last yr Rick/Gary said forget looking out for the salary cap in the future. We've gotta win this yr or we will both be shown the door. (Hence the JoJo/Manning FA signings) The decisions they made last yr are coming home to roost.

Good news is if either Caldwell or a draft pick can replace Briesel. They need to sign a vet FA swing OT on the level of Salaam to add veteran depth. This should be able to be done fairly cheaply.

The thing that worries me is the Texans draft is very important this yr if the Texans want to take the next step toward becoming an elite franchise. Last time this happened was the 2009 offseason and Rick/Gary rested on their laurels. This resulted in the disastor that was the 2010 season. Hopefully Rick/Gary learned their lessons.
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Im gonna remind you all of this thread when you are eating crow .... how do ya like it served?!
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Is Casey Studdard still under contract? He will be in the mix as well

Rick Smith really amateur houred his way to a nice contract with Myers
Did everyone want us to give Myers $50 million like he was supposedly asking for? Wouldn't that be the amateur knee-jerk reaction. We can't lose him so let's give him more than market value. The team had an offer in place and let Myers try and get more. That's how the winning teams do it every year. We're not at that level yet, but I'm not overly concerned that we lost Mike Brisiel. Mario hurts more, but the Texans couldn't give him the money the Bills did.
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Here, it seems that Smith and Co. budgeted for the best case scenario.......and evidently gambled and even overestimated that by a long shot...........and got handed their asses when closer to the worst case scenario (much of which should have been realistically anticipated) raised its ugly head.
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Worst case scenario? We signed Foster and Myers to long term deals, and good deals I might add. How is that the worst case scenario?
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Did everyone want us to give Myers $50 million like he was supposedly asking for? Wouldn't that be the amateur knee-jerk reaction. We can't lose him so let's give him more than market value. The team had an offer in place and let Myers try and get more. That's how the winning teams do it every year. We're not at that level yet, but I'm not overly concerned that we lost Mike Brisiel. Mario hurts more, but the Texans couldn't give him the money the Bills did.
and by hurts more, you mean not really at all because the defense showed that the FO that a player making 500k could produce just as much , if not more than a player making $100 mil, right?

Shelley Smith should be able to step in, being he ran the same scheme in college, and play guard if Caldwell cannot.
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maybe they thought last year Jonathan and Manning were the last pieces need to win a SB i didnt happen so this is what happens Cap casulites ... nuff said
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47-49 is the record since Rick Smith has been the GM here.

Last season we finally had the only break out season they've ever had under Rick Smith and it took year 6 years just to do that. Now finally when the Texans are actually looked at as real contenders assuming they were going to try and get better in the off season, not only are they not trying to fill holes like so many other previous off seasons where Smithiak failed to go after talented players, but we're not even standing pat. We're freaking losing some really important players that we need.

Now before you Smithiak apologists try bringing up the one off season where they actually did use free agency wisely, just look at how much it helped last season with Joseph and Manning in the secondary.

Now how in the hell were the Texans going to go into this season in this kind of cap hell without realizing it last season to where they could have made some moves to avoid this kind of situation???

How in the hell did Rick Smith not see this coming before?? Why in the hell did we even keep MARIO WILLIAMS just to have him for one season, knowing we weren't going to be able to afford what he would demand?? Why would you not have traded him knowing that? If our cap situation was going to be this bad, there is no way in hell the Texans management couldn't have known that this would end up being unfeasible to re-sign Mario. So, instead he walks and we get nothing for him.

If you're not getting better in this league, you're getting worse. That's how it always is for the most part, and we're actually losing assets on this team right when we finally have a team that can be true contenders. This is amateurish GM stuff from Rick Smith as usual. He has obviously mismanaged this cap big time, and the Texans could very well likely end up wasting another season of Andre Johnson's career where he might not see the playoffs again. Our window is open right now, and we should be jumping in!!

Get Rick Smith out of here already, and find a real GM that can and will go out and get players to fill holes, and a guy that knows how to manage our cap situation. This is ridiculous.
I don't think you understand how the NFL works. Coming into this **** franchise 4 years ago and almost being .500 is nothing short of amazing.

I also don't think you understand how the cap works. We're not the Yankees. We can't be the Yankees. Any fan that has any idea how the cap works knew this was coming. Luckily, we retained the two players we absolutely needed to retain in Myers and Foster. Cutting Winston (pretty bad) is the only misstep he's made so far this offseason.

Your criticisms are contradictory. You want him to improve the team, but you want him to go after big name free agents, but you want him to retain people? Lmao. That's completely unrealistic. Look at Green Bay. They came off the Super Bowl in 2010, and would've won again in the 2011 season if they didn't run into the hottest team in the league. You want to know how they built? The draft. That's what Houston has been trying to do for years, they were just bad at it. It looks like they're moving in the right direction by listening to Wade's input.

The team is on the right track, your post is nothing short of hilarious.
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Here's my question, did anyone know what the cap would be for this year? It seems like the cap was just announced in the last week or 2. If the Texans didn't sign JJo and Manning then they wouldn't have problems with the cap. Ask yourself this, if you're upset with the Texans for improperly managing the cap, would you have been more upset if they did nothing last off season to bolster the defense. I seem to remember a bunch of posters calling "Uncle Bob" a cheap skate and berating him for not spending money. You can't have it both ways, you can't complain he doesn't spend money then be upset with them when they do and have to make tough decisions regarding the cap.

To me the only glaring mistakes Smith has made:

Drafting Okoye at 10 - I wouldn't gamble with such a young guy with a top 10 pick

Maybe KJ - Im going to wait one more season before I label him a mistake. I think Gibbs was a horrible DB coach and KJ (and the others) suffered for it.

Telling Dunta he wouldn't franchise him then franchising him. He should tell players that he'll use every option at his disposal to improve the team.
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