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Old 03-19-2012   #41
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Also, look at it as if you're a team in need of a RT.

1. Are you in need of Winston specifically?
No, because there are other UFA RTs out there and the draft is next month.

2. Would you like Winston?
Yes, maybe.

3. Do you like Winston enough to spend a draft pick plus his high salary to get him?
Maybe not, see the answer to #1.

4. So, if you're another team, why spend a draft pick to get him?
You know free agency is coming up, and if the Texans are shopping Winston, there is a chance they may be cutting him soon for salary cap reasons. If they aren't looking to get rid of him for cap reasons, you have to start asking yourself "why is it the Texans suddenly don't want him anymore? injury? other issues we don't know about?" That would make me wait and see if I could get him as an UFA if he hits the market. I might even get him for less than his Texans contract, and I don't lose a draft pick. If I don't get him, who cares? He doesn't play an elite position where he is a "have to have" kind of guy. Also, see the answer to #1.

So, that could have been what happened.
Good points. I felt as though it your another team his salary isn't a big deal since he got signed for about the price he was under contract anyways, but instead of bidding for his services in FA and losing, you could trade a 4-6th round pick for him and guaranteed that he is on your squad. A 4-6th round pick isn't much to shore up your RT position, but I can see why I team wouldn't do it and why a team would. Just random thoughts and if I was the Texans, I woud have taken anything I could have gotten for him (i'm pretty sure they tried though but they liked Winston enough to cut him and let him choose).
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looks like we draft another TE
Don't we always do that anyway?


seriously though, they haven't signed him yet.
right now it's just a visit.
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looks like we draft another TE
I won't mind at all if it's in the 4th or later. We need a WR, NT, Olineman (or two) before we get a TE though.
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Free agent TE Joel Dreessen is scheduled to visit the Titans on Tuesday. Analysis: Dreessen visited the Saints on Sunday and the Bengals on Monday. The Titans visit will be his third of the free agency period. Though Tennessee has yet to release Daniel Graham, it likely would if Dreessen was added behind Jared Cook. The Titans have Craig Stevens as their primary blocking tight end.

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Looks like Dressen is enjoying being wanted. Seriously, this is might be that guy's last chance to get a contract above veteran minimum, so finding the right place and $$ for him is essential at this point.
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Free agent TE Joel Dreessen is scheduled to visit the Titans on Tuesday. Analysis: Dreessen visited the Saints on Sunday and the Bengals on Monday. The Titans visit will be his third of the free agency period. Though Tennessee has yet to release Daniel Graham, it likely would if Dreessen was added behind Jared Cook. The Titans have Craig Stevens as their primary blocking tight end.

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Looks like Dressen is enjoying being wanted. Seriously, this is might be that guy's last chance to get a contract above veteran minimum, so finding the right place and $$ for him is essential at this point.
Cue rant about players being all about the money.
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Honestly, we probably can't offer him more than 2 million in 2012. I would imagine he signs somewhere for about 3 million a year average. He's certainly a nice #2 TE to have on any team as he can block and catch well. If nothing else, we will get a comp pick for him next year, though I would prefer to have him back.
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I won't mind at all if it's in the 4th or later. We need a WR, NT, Olineman (or two) before we get a TE though.
Add Kicker and RB to that list if we lose Rackers and Ward. Anyone heard anything on Rackers and Ward yet? Not too worried about Ward, but I'd hate to have to go out and start looking for another Kicker in FA or the Draft. Still not to sure about the Punting situation either.
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Add Kicker and RB to that list if we lose Rackers and Ward. Anyone heard anything on Rackers and Ward yet? Not too worried about Ward, but I'd hate to have to go out and start looking for another Kicker in FA or the Draft. Still not to sure about the Punting situation either.
I think the Texans will draft a kicker in the 5/6/7th round. RB as well, but Foster and Tate are plenty for us right now. They did so well sharing the load last year that Ward wasn't even a factor. We should be fine filling the RB #3 position with an UDFA or a scrapheap free agent.
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I think the Texans will draft a kicker in the 5/6/7th round. RB as well, but Foster and Tate are plenty for us right now. They did so well sharing the load last year that Ward wasn't even a factor. We should be fine filling the RB #3 position with an UDFA or a scrapheap free agent.
Any chance of bringing back Chris Ogbonnaya to be the third-string running back? It seemed like we let him get away too fast and the Browns snagged him up. Then again he's probably good enough to either start or be getting his share of carries on the Browns.
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Any chance of bringing back Chris Ogbonnaya to be the third-string running back? It seemed like we let him get away too fast and the Browns snagged him up. Then again he's probably good enough to either start or be getting his share of carries on the Browns.
He's under contract with Cleveland. He was their starting RB towards the end of the season due to Hardesty being out with a strained calf and Peyton Hillis being out due to menstrual cramps.
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I think the Texans will draft a kicker in the 5/6/7th round. RB as well, but Foster and Tate are plenty for us right now. They did so well sharing the load last year that Ward wasn't even a factor. We should be fine filling the RB #3 position with an UDFA or a scrapheap free agent.
Ward is a scrap heap free agent.
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I thought it was a requirement that everyone on our team has played TE in their HS or college career??
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Nah. Unless he says trash about us when he leaves, like Mario did.

Notice we don't hear Jason Allen, as he heads to the Bengals, making tweets that contain little jabs at Houston. Nor from Brisiel. Nor from Winston.

Just Mario. He's talented, but you can see he's insecure and unable to believe in himself 100%...which is why he has to trash talk the Texans...to show everyone that he IS good enough and he IS worth the money.

Even if Dreessen goes to the Titans, good luck to him (as long as it's not against us). At this point, I think Bud wants Dreessen strictly to learn more about our offense and our tendencies. That's how they roll...always have and always will.
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Free agent TE Joel Dreessen in Denver today meeting with the Broncos. He's already met with the Saints, Bengals, and Titans.


Dude is touring the dang country. I guess chances of him signing with us are slim?
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Free agent TE Joel Dreessen in Denver today meeting with the Broncos. He's already met with the Saints, Bengals, and Titans.


Dude is touring the dang country. I guess chances of him signing with us are slim?
Wow, him on the Broncos would make him worthy of being drafted in Fantasy Football. His ceiling would be high with Manning throwing to him. Especially considering that the current Broncos TEs suck.
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‏ Dude is touring the dang country. I guess chances of him signing with us are slim?
If he's visited that many teams without signing, maybe he's not getting a better offer than he did/would here. If he doesn't sign with Denver, I think it's a sign he might be back
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