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Old 03-15-2012   #81
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Not really. Regular Joes really don't "need" to exactly how much money a team does or does not have. I get that free agency is a part of the fun of following a team, but knowing every detail of the finances is not essentially information for any fan.

Not for us, not so we can play GM. But when people who are involved with the team or media or whoever have seemingly no clue and you're getting different numbers every single place you turn, that's a problem.
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Then what were they planning on Paying Mario with had he come back?
Can easily re-structure a few more contracts or cut a few guys.
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Mangold contract was 8 years/$57.4 m. $25 million guar. That is what Myers agent is looking for as stated on XM radio
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Mangold contract was 8 years/$57.4 m. $25 million guar. That is what Myers agent is looking for as stated on XM radio
I thinly that's his asking price usually those go down substantially. Especially.when he realizes no one is going to pay him like Mangold.
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Mangold contract was 8 years/$57.4 m. $25 million guar. That is what Myers agent is looking for as stated on XM radio
Myers is 30. I can't see him getting a 8 yr contract. Assuming he wants to avg $7.2M a year as that contract does, we could do that if it is backloaded a bit or we go the signing bonus route. I don't think he will get full Mangold money though.

As someone else said, there are at least a couple guys who could be restructured or cut to free up several million if we need it.
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Myers is 30. I can't see him getting a 8 yr contract. Assuming he wants to avg $7.2M a year as that contract does, we could do that if it is backloaded a bit or we go the signing bonus route. I don't think he will get full Mangold money though.

As someone else said, there are at least a couple guys who could be restructured or cut to free up several million if we need it.
Agreed.

By the way, thank you for your efforts here. You have zero rep, but in my eyes you have been a great contributor so far. You and Dutch have tried very hard to research and find the numbers...you've worked harder than the professional guys like McClain. Thank you!

I'm sending you rep, maybe it'll get you a number other than zero...because you deserve to have recognition. Glad you're here, pal.

EDIT: Damn, it didn't get you into "real number" status. Can you guys hit him with some rep? He deserves it.
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Agreed.

By the way, thank you for your efforts here. You have zero rep, but in my eyes you have been a great contributor so far. You and Dutch have tried very hard to research and find the numbers...you've worked harder than the professional guys like McClain. Thank you!

I'm sending you rep, maybe it'll get you a number other than zero...because you deserve to have recognition. Glad you're here, pal.

EDIT: Damn, it didn't get you into "real number" status. Can you guys hit him with some rep? He deserves it.
I think you have to have a certain number of posts to get/give rep -- 50 IIRC.
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I think you have to have a certain number of posts to get/give rep -- 50 IIRC.
Yeah, I just thought of that...so thank you for bringing that up! I forgot.

Hey there, G27RR...

Get your post count up to 50! About 22 more to go.
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Yeah, I just thought of that...so thank you for bringing that up! I forgot.

Hey there, G27RR...

Get your post count up to 50! About 22 more to go.
Thanks for your comments and the rep, much appreciated.
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I think that just indicates the FO is smart and doesn't want to overpay.
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Why does that Snickers commercial come to mind?

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Mangold contract was 8 years/$57.4 m. $25 million guar. That is what Myers agent is looking for as stated on XM radio
Myers is not Mangold. He offers no scheme versatility. He has to be on a team who use a ZBS primarily. If he was going to get that much money he would have been signed by now. He has an offer from the Texans. He testing the market to see if he can get more and if the Texans will match.

My guess is he gets around $35 over 5 with 14-16 guaranteed.

Even he got the Mangold contract, we could afford it. We just would never pay that for him, I hope.
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I think that just indicates the FO is smart and doesn't want to overpay.
Yep. They are waiting to see what he is offered, and they will match up to some ceiling they have in mind. The ceiling will represent what value they think he has to the team vs going with someone cheaper.

I'd like to keep him as long as it isn't stupid money.
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My guess is he gets around $35 over 5 with 14-16 guaranteed.
I'm hoping the stop at about 5yrs/$30M, unless we lose Brisiel, in which case I can see $35M so we don't lose 3/5ths of our line.
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Here's the plan , we let them walk and trade Ben Tate to Cleveland for the 22nd pick . We take Konz and Zeitler and change our name to the Badgers .
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Here's the plan , we let them walk and trade Ben Tate to Cleveland for the 22nd pick . We take Konz and Zeitler and change our name to the Badgers .
We don't need no stinkin' badgers!

Sorry, couldn't resist, and GP and Dan said I need to get my post count up.
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We don't need no stinkin' badgers!

Sorry, couldn't resist, and GP and Dan said I need to get my post count up.
You can never go wrong with a blazing saddles reference .

So it's small post counts should be seen and not heard ?
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You can never go wrong with a blazing saddles reference .

So it's small post counts should be seen and not heard ?
No way man! It's from UHF the Weird Al movie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-fqPvmiaAM
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No way man! It's from UHF the Weird Al movie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-fqPvmiaAM
The original quote of " badges , we don't need no stinking badges " was Blazing Saddles . If there was a badger quote , I learned something new today .
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No way man! It's from UHF the Weird Al movie!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-fqPvmiaAM

Yep, I loved that movie.

Honoring Earl, the movie UHF used the badgers line as a take-off of the Blazing Saddles line. The whole UHF movie parodied bits of other movies.
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