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Old 03-15-2012   #141
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610 through this out this morning....

"Would you trade Tate plus the #26 pick for Cleveland's #4?"

Justin Blackmon anyone?
I would do it in a heartbeat. WR is our biggest need and Blackmon is the best WR prospect this year. Hell, I wanted him last year too.

I am ok with filling 2 needs at the bottom of round 1 as well. I just dont like the idea of starting over at center this year.
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I think I would need the 22. Tate is a good back, but Foster is the guy. And I feel pretty confident that there is a back out there in the draft in rounds 4-7 that could turn into a solid number 2.
This quote in a Cleveland Browns thread has my inner 8th grader giggling.
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We'd find a way to take 22 and 26 and move DOWN for 2 2nd rounders and an extra 3rd. Some stooped **** like that, I'm sure.

I don't want Gary getting an extra 1st rounder and wonder how to use it. I mean, that's like having the ball at the opponent's 5-yard-line and we've got three downs to score a TD--Gary finds ways to eff it up. Oh the things he can do with three downs and only 5 yards to go!

And if we use both the 22 and 26 to move UP...we'd probably draft the next Travis Johnson or Amobi Okoye. That idea has bad mojo written all over it.
Not to worry. With two first round picks we give one to Wade and the other to Gary. One of 'em is bound to be good. One is our Mario replacement and the other our Myers/Brisiel replacement. I smell win-win.

And if it were me, I'd squeeze the Brownies for a 6th too ...just cause with Hillis gone I know they be desperate.
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I'm thinking thunderkyss and Bill can both kiss my ass.

The pill referance was the the move Matrix by the way. I'm surprised no one caught that.
I caught it. I'm pretty sure they did too.
But, with the high-quality, quick-trigger smart-a$$age among the members, you know it's not HARD for things to quickly go "south" around here.

Yeah... I did that on purpose too.
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Ben Tate has 2 years left on his contract. He did an outstanding job. Coaches love him. He should be even better next season. Going nowhere.


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Forget anything you read or hear about the Texans considering trading RB Ben Tate to Browns. Not going to happen.




well thats closed then
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This quote in a Cleveland Browns thread has my inner 8th grader giggling.
Speaking of which, I think it's getting close to visiting my "other office". *Grabs newspaper*
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Not trading Eric is puzzling unless they want to re-sign him very cheaply. If traded, he is definitely on another team and cannot be re-signed. I have not heard of him even scheduling a visit. Seems like asking him to take a cut and re-structure would be way to go unless Smith thinks he could get much lower deal when Eric discovered he was cut.

If NFL thinks Winston is an above average RT seems as if he would have been snapped up by now.
Winston already visited Miami and has visits scheduled with St Louis, KC, Baltimore and Detroit. He is a hot commodity and the best OT remaining in free agency. I really can't imagine he would have no trade value even at 4.5 million a year non-guaranteed. The Browns just released OG Eric Steinbach who took 6 million off their cap. They already had some room before that, and could have easily fit Winston into their lineup. Pair him and Ben Tate together and you should be able to snag their 2nd and 3rd round picks easily or #22 and a late 4th.
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speaking of which, i think it's getting close to visiting my "other office". *grabs hustler*
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Ben Tate has 2 years left on his contract. He did an outstanding job. Coaches love him. He should be even better next season. Going nowhere.


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Forget anything you read or hear about the Texans considering trading RB Ben Tate to Browns. Not going to happen.




well thats closed then
Seeing as it is McClain, this pretty much assures us that the FO is open to trading Tate for the right price.
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Can't wait to see FakeJohnMcClain's tweet on this:

"i wouldn't trade Beans N Taters to Cleveland for a 6er of O'Douls and a bucket of lemon squares! Wait, ya i would."

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"Beans and Taters will play with a team next year! You heard it here first!"
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Winston already visited Miami and has visits scheduled with St Louis, KC, Baltimore and Detroit. He is a hot commodity and the best OT remaining in free agency. I really can't imagine he would have no trade value even at 4.5 million a year non-guaranteed. The Browns just released OG Eric Steinbach who took 6 million off their cap. They already had some room before that, and could have easily fit Winston into their lineup. Pair him and Ben Tate together and you should be able to snag their 2nd and 3rd round picks easily or #22 and a late 4th.
Curious, can you trade a player that failed his physical ?
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Curious, can you trade a player that failed his physical ?
You can if the team taking the player agrees to accept him. Broderick Bunkley was traded from the Eagles to the Browns last year, but the deal was rescinded when he failed a physical. The Eagles turned around and sent him to the Broncos a week or two later, and he played the entire season for them. Now the Broncos are trying to sign him to a longterm deal.
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I really can't imagine he would have no trade value even at 4.5 million a year non-guaranteed. The Browns just released OG Eric Steinbach who took 6 million off their cap. They already had some room before that, and could have easily fit Winston into their lineup. Pair him and Ben Tate together and you should be able to snag their 2nd and 3rd round picks easily or #22 and a late 4th.
Nobody wants an Eric Winston who cant pass a physical, @ the back end of his bloated contract. And on top of that give up a draft pick? No thanks. They want him on their terms. Not ours.
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610 through this out this morning....

"Would you trade Tate plus the #26 pick for Cleveland's #4?"

Justin Blackmon anyone?
I would make that trade yesterday. That would not be a good trade for Cleveland. The 4 is just too valuable.

Think about this. Re-sign Ward; trade the 26 and Tate for the 4. We can then try and move down in the draft from 4 to like 15 and that would net us a 1st round next year at least. So we would have moved up 10 spots and we'd have two 1st rounders next year. At the middle of the first this year we could look at Floyd or an OT or Decastro at OG.

I just think there's no way Cleveland would do that deal. No way.
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Ben Tate has 2 years left on his contract. He did an outstanding job. Coaches love him. He should be even better next season. Going nowhere.


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Forget anything you read or hear about the Texans considering trading RB Ben Tate to Browns. Not going to happen.




well thats closed then
I was kinda thinking that this means it's a done deal.
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I would do it in a heartbeat. WR is our biggest need and Blackmon is the best WR prospect this year. Hell, I wanted him last year too.

I am ok with filling 2 needs at the bottom of round 1 as well. I just dont like the idea of starting over at center this year.
Who do you replace Tate with?
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I'm thinking thunderkyss and Bill can both kiss my ass.

The pill referance was the the move Matrix by the way. I'm surprised no one caught that.
whoops, I guess wrong; thought it was the Arnold Sci Fy movie where he went to Mars (or didn't). Total Recall if I recall correctly.
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Who do you replace Tate with?
Derrick Ward?
LT?
Tim Hightower?
BenJarvus Green-Ellis?
Ryan Grant?

Cyrus Grey in the 4th!

Lots of option. They aren't better than Tate, but they can take some carries.
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Not to worry. With two first round picks we give one to Wade and the other to Gary. One of 'em is bound to be good. One is our Mario replacement and the other our Myers/Brisiel replacement. I smell win-win.

And if it were me, I'd squeeze the Brownies for a 6th too ...just cause with Hillis gone I know they be desperate.
Do we have to have a back up OLB in first?
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