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Old 06-26-2012   #261
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One player experts and fans have their eyes on is Tomlinson's replacement, Ryan Mathews. Highly graded out of college Mathews hasn't hit the superstar level yet. He also has some fumbling problems that won't go away and with Mike Tolbert in Carolina the burden has gotten heavier for him. Rivers has played his best football with a good running game, something he didn't have much of last year. It's why fans have pushed GM A.J. Smith to find some help like free agent Cedric Benson or even a trade. That's where Ben Tate comes in. The Texans backup is eager to prove he can start for any team but with an All-Pro like Foster in front of him his best chance is to leave for another team. San Diego would fit perfectly as his size and strength would compliment the speed of Mathews. If the price weren't too high Houston also might get another high draft pick to find more young talent.
First let me say, "Huh?". What constitutes "too high" and what would be a "high draft pick"? It's OK for the Texans to ask for a 1st for Tate, but not a 1st and a 2nd? What is he talking about?

Second, Ryan Mathews was 5th in the AFC in total yards behind the superstar RBs Foster, Rice, and Jones-Drew, along with the underrated Bills Fred Jackson. Plus, they signed veteran Ronnie Brown has a backup this offseason. The Chargers don't need to spend big in trade value on another RB. A ridiculous suggestion.
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First let me say, "Huh?". What constitutes "too high" and what would be a "high draft pick"? It's OK for the Texans to ask for a 1st for Tate, but not a 1st and a 2nd? What is he talking about?

Second, Ryan Mathews was 5th in the AFC in total yards behind the superstar RBs Foster, Rice, and Jones-Drew, along with the underrated Bills Fred Jackson. Plus, they signed veteran Ronnie Brown has a backup this offseason. The Chargers don't need to spend big in trade value on another RB. A ridiculous suggestion.
not a first, probably early to mid second which is still considered a high pick. I sure as hell wouldn't do it, he is coming into his prime & another pivotal weapon to swing important match-ups in a stretch run deep into the playoffs for the Texans keeping Foster fresh.
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Or if AF turns out to be too expensive, trade him for the farm and keep Tate, or if AF has a flat season, remember he was banged up and missed 3 games last year. We are one bad cut away from us needing a good RB again.
Foster is here for 4 more years no matter what. He won't become "too expensive" in any of those years.

But you're right about the need for Tate if Foster gets hurt.
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Foster and Tate offer us a proven ground attack. Trading Tate is a gamble I would not be willing to take.
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not a first, probably early to mid second which is still considered a high pick. I sure as hell wouldn't do it, he is coming into his prime & another pivotal weapon to swing important match-ups in a stretch run deep into the playoffs for the Texans keeping Foster fresh.
Where was Ben Tate in the second half of the Baltimore game?

Maybe other GMs would look at that & deduce that he's not ready for the big games.
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Foster and Tate offer us a proven ground attack. Trading Tate is a gamble I would not be willing to take.
I would do it in Madden in a heartbeat. But if I were GM of the Texans, I would not trade him right now. Foster-Tate is the strongest 1-2 punch in the NFL. And we all know what happens when the Texans run the ball 30+ times a game.

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While I agree with TB

How will the WR corps look without AJ. Trading Tate would've allowed that problem to be solved and solved future contract issues.

I guess it comes down to if you think Ward and Forsett are capable backups vs the WR corps Walter/Posey/Jean/Martin being capable of replacing AJ as WR1 if AJ were to get hurt.

BTW, Who is more likely to get injured and miss a significant amount of time next season Foster or AJ? This question may be better answered by C-N-D.
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How will the WR corps look without AJ. Trading Tate would've allowed that problem to be solved and solved future contract issues.

I guess it comes down to if you think Ward and Forsett are capable backups vs the WR corps Walter/Posey/Jean/Martin being capable of replacing AJ as WR1 if AJ were to get hurt.

BTW, Who is more likely to get injured and miss a significant amount of time next season Foster or AJ? This question may be better answered by C-N-D.
1. Have we re-signed Ward? Or are you implying if we traded Tate we could re-sign Ward to the team? As a GM, I would only entertain trading Tate if I have a very viable option at RB that both I and the HC feel very comfortable with. I wouldn't trade him and take the "risk" that I don't quite replace him.

2. If we were to trade Tate, I would want it to be for a legitimate WR that can produce THIS season. Not a draft pick that would take time to develop.
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1. Have we re-signed Ward? Or are you implying if we traded Tate we could re-sign Ward to the team? As a GM, I would only entertain trading Tate if I have a very viable option at RB that both I and the HC feel very comfortable with. I wouldn't trade him and take the "risk" that I don't quite replace him.

2. If we were to trade Tate, I would want it to be for a legitimate WR that can produce THIS season. Not a draft pick that would take time to develop.
As soon as I read this I said "Packers". The team has not had a running game in years and is loaded with WR talent. Seems like a no brainer if something was to happen.
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As soon as I read this I said "Packers". The team has not had a running game in years and is loaded with WR talent. Seems like a no brainer if something was to happen.
Yep

Cobb and Jones would be perfect fits.
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