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Old 03-13-2012   #1
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It seems to me that our braintrust might have miscalculated. I know they were under the gun to win last year or they would possibly/probably get the boot themselves but was the team's long term quest to be a yearly contender put at risk with the moves they made last year? Did we pull a Florida Marlins and shoot for the moon with the knowledge that we would have to blow the team up as soon as the season was over? To be honest it might have worked except for injuries.

I am not sure and would like your opinion. I think the main mistake made was not trading Mario before the season started last year thus allowing us to sign some players before their FA year and allow us to accumulate draft choices.

I have not heard of any FAs coming to Houston for interviews.

You don't think that RS is holding out hope that they can sign Mario and is waiting for him to come back to us before he acts in FA do you?

Just curious what do you think?
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Without spending the money on JJoe last year, we would (probably) have no made the playoffs. That being said, they really didn't take much, if any, advantage to the uncapped year in terms of moving money around effectively. But in the same light, this is the price you pay for drafting well. Your big time draftees turn into big time players who want big time money. Dems the ropes in the modern day NFL.


All that being said, I don't really know if I'd trade anything in the world for last season. It felt and still feels great finally being respected around the league. Just my two cents.

Edit: Meant to add DManning to that as well.
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Without spending the money on JJoe last year, we would (probably) have no made the playoffs. That being said, they really didn't take much, if any, advantage to the uncapped year in terms of moving money around effectively. But in the same light, this is the price you pay for drafting well. Your big time draftees turn into big time players who want big time money. Dems the ropes in the modern day NFL.
The Cowboys and Redskins made sure they took advantage of it
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Texans FO handled last year perfectly. Were gonna lose some quality players because this off season because the front office has turned our team into one of the most talented teams in the NFL.
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It seems to me that our braintrust might have miscalculated. I know they were under the gun to win last year or they would possibly/probably get the boot themselves but was the team's long term quest to be a yearly contender put at risk with the moves they made last year? Did we pull a Florida Marlins and shoot for the moon with the knowledge that we would have to blow the team up as soon as the season was over? To be honest it might have worked except for injuries.

I am not sure and would like your opinion. I think the main mistake made was not trading Mario before the season started last year thus allowing us to sign some players before their FA year and allow us to accumulate draft choices.

I have not heard of any FAs coming to Houston for interviews.

You don't think that RS is holding out hope that they can sign Mario and is waiting for him to come back to us before he acts in FA do you?
Just curious what do you think?
I will reserve judgement until after the draft is over and the Myers Brisiel situation is resolved. If we can resign them both this will be a good offseason.
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I think it's been well documented that they expected the cap to go up quite a bit... They gambled and they lost...

Not too worried about them, this situation sure sucks... but what if they had traded Mario? They would have expected the same "value" back, so realistically they would have had the same problem with the cap, so all in all: someone still would have had to go...

Sure, they haven't nailed it and gotten everything perfect, but they've aquired too many good players over the years... You can't pay all of them...
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Good teams lose good players and then replace them with other good players. We're about to lose some good players whom we drafted. Time to draft more good players to replace them.
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The Cowboys and Redskins made sure they took advantage of it
Haha indeed .. I don't know that we would have been that extreme. I just meant paying a bit more last year via restructure if it meant savings in the future. Is that what the Girls and Skins got busted for? I haven't really read into the story as of yet.
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Default Re: Anybody else have concerns about our FO

Every team has its UFAs. These UFAs have agent. The agents are all contacting teams and fielding phone calls from the teams interested in their client(s).

Rick Smith is just another GM, same as the GMs on 31 other teams. Every GM in the NFL has had its hands full today, fielding calls and putting names on the board (or something like that) to rank and prioritize.

Roughly 3 or 4 players have been signed so far, with the trade of Brandon Marshall to the Bears and the UFA acquisition of Garcon on the Redskins being the only newsworthy items to discuss.

I think any panic right now is fruitless. It takes time to let all these UFAs' agents and the GMs to get contract talks/offers squared away.

There will be plenty of action, it just isn't going to start the first day. It takes time to get the ball rolling on all these players and to let agents sort out prospective contracts and destinations for their clients.

It's not like every team has had its finger on the big red button to make their selection(s) at 3:01 Eastern Time today. Gonna' take time to work itself out.
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Without spending the money on JJoe last year, we would (probably) have no made the playoffs. That being said, they really didn't take much, if any, advantage to the uncapped year in terms of moving money around effectively. But in the same light, this is the price you pay for drafting well. Your big time draftees turn into big time players who want big time money. Dems the ropes in the modern day NFL.

All that being said, I don't really know if I'd trade anything in the world for last season. It felt and still feels great finally being respected around the league. Just my two cents.

Edit: Meant to add DManning to that as well.
So how do the Pats stay on top? Is it all due to Brady? The Pats seem to trade players near their peak while they are over valued and therby are able to keep their overall talent level high and due to young players cheap. How did they accumulate they excess of draft choices they have now?

Just curious what you think.
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So how do the Pats stay on top? Is it all due to Brady? The Pats seem to trade players near their peak while they are over valued and therby are able to keep their overall talent level high and due to young players cheap. How did they accumulate they excess of draft choices they have now?

Just curious what you think.
Brady is a huge part of it and they are masters at getting value for picks.
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Brady is a huge part of it and they are masters at getting value for picks.
And obviously Manning at Indy...

Really there are only about 2-3 teams out of 32 who have complete badass front offices... It's not like our's is the only one with problems...
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So how do the Pats stay on top? Is it all due to Brady? The Pats seem to trade players near their peak while they are over valued and therby are able to keep their overall talent level high and due to young players cheap. How did they accumulate they excess of draft choices they have now?

Just curious what you think.
C'mon. The Patriots got incredibly lucky in getting their future hall of fame QB in the 6th. They also got incredibly lucky Miami had no clue how to use Welker. They got incredibly lucky Moss decided to run for a couple years. They have made their share of missteps as well such as Adalious Thomas. Their defense was putrid last year and yeah if the Texans had Schaub available odds are they sail past New England. Plus off the field they have a great strategist in Belichick.
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And obviously Manning at Indy...

Really there are only about 2-3 teams out of 32 who have complete badass front offices... It's not like our's is the only one with problems...
Is this supposed to make me feel better? I do agree with you though. I guess we are just happy to be done with Casserly.

The question is how do we become one of the 2-3????
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Is this supposed to make me feel better? I do agree with you though. I guess we are just happy to be done with Casserly.

The question is how do we become one of the 2-3????
Actually i may have overestimated that number lol..

But how to become one? Don't get me lying... But i'd sau it will take good management over a decent period of time added with some luck... It's only been 10 years with two different regimes... though this regime is "up against it" in regards to the cap, they're not doing a bad job, they do improve every year it seems...

They get a pass from me for now on this cap issue... Too much demand for their pieces, they just can't pay everyone...
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So how do the Pats stay on top? Is it all due to Brady? The Pats seem to trade players near their peak while they are over valued and therby are able to keep their overall talent level high and due to young players cheap. How did they accumulate they excess of draft choices they have now?

Just curious what you think.
Well:

A. Brady is obviously a HUGE part of it.

B. They've actually drafted rather poorly lately. If you look, they have very few impact players whom they drafted. Believe me on this, as many know I live two towns over from Foxboro and this was ALL you heard this season. Therefore, I don't know how they do it. They make smart moves at smart times. Low Risk/High Reward. This season it blew up on them (Albert, Ocho) but they battled through it. Can't discredit the man in charge either. He's a schematicaly (word?) genius.
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they said we won the division, Rebuild time
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Even after we lose all these players, we are still the best team in our division. It does look like we'll be doing some rebuilding, but that's always happening in some form or another.
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