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You were supposed to be top-notch... I guess we were all wrong.
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We need the Redskins cap guy. They spend mad money every year in FA with no apparent cap issues. We need that dude.
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We need the Redskins cap guy. They spend mad money every year in FA with no apparent cap issues. We need that dude.
Excellent timing there!
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The Cap guy who just got fined $36 million?
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The Cap guy who just got fined $36 million?
The League has to be real careful there. There was no cap in 2010 although the NFL is acting like there was. I think the Skins and the Cowboy have a real gripe with the League and should explore legal action.

They played by the written rules in place at the time. However, to answer your question. Yeah, that cap guy.

BTW...He didn't get fined.
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Default Re: Hey Chris Olsen...

We are in the age of Free agency PLayers are not loyal to a Team they are loyal to each other a botherhood

Of course they will go were a sweet deal is they got bills to pay cars 2 buy and prob are thinking if i get this money even my kids kids are set for life meaning Family comes before team
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We need the Redskins cap guy. They spend mad money every year in FA with no apparent cap issues. We need that dude.
Really? So we can overpay Haynesworth? So we can not make the playoffs in seven years while spending mad money?

I think I'll pass on Washington's mad money scientist...
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BTW...He didn't get fined.
Much like this isn't Chris Olsen's fault.
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Really? So we can overpay Haynesworth? So we can not make the playoffs in seven years while spending mad money?

I think I'll pass on Washington's mad money scientist...
Not the context of my post.

My point wasn't the Texans need to spend mad money in FA. My point is they need a better cap manager.
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We need the Redskins cap guy. They spend mad money every year in FA with no apparent cap issues. We need that dude.
thats because they Pretty much skip the draft they trade away all there picks and Cut all the rookies they draft

and build there team through F/A thats how they build there team
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Not the context of my post.

My point wasn't the Texans need to spend mad money in FA. My point is they need a better cap manager.
It's not about how you manage the cap, it's what you do with what's under that cap...

Sadly, the Texans have obtained too many good players over the past five or so years and they can't pay them all... Arian, Mario, Meyers... Those are three guys at the top of the list at their respected positions, and will all take a chit ton of money to retain... I guarantee you, Mr. Cap and the rest of the Texans front office never expected Foster to become the best all around RB in the league.. (hince drafting Tate in the 2nd).. but he did, he was up and it took money to keep him... Probably the only negative about Foster: a totally unexpected huge ass cap hit (though they worked it as best as they could)...
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i still think paying a Running back in this day of age is not a good idea

and with that even paying a Oline is not a good idea either in this day of age in the NFL well esp a Runn blocking Oline

some teams only get Tall Tree like Oline men that excel at Pass protection and can run block to save thee lives
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Doesn't matter who we have managing our cap, when you have this many elite players your gonna have to make tough decisions...
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It's not about how you manage the cap, it's what you do with what's under that cap...

Sadly, the Texans have obtained too many good players over the past five or so years and they can't pay them all... Arian, Mario, Meyers... Those are three guys at the top of the list at their respected positions, and will all take a chit ton of money to retain... I guarantee you, Mr. Cap and the rest of the Texans front office never expected Foster to become the best all around RB in the league.. (hince drafting Tate in the 2nd).. but he did, he was up and it took money to keep him... Probably the only negative about Foster: a totally unexpected huge ass cap hit (though they worked it as best as they could)...
Yeah, that Rick Smith guy sucks, don't he?
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Yeah, that Rick Smith guy sucks, don't he?
Yes he does. Arian was pure luck, nothing to do with Smith. Mario was Charlies pick. Myers was thought to be a bust and then turned things around. last year was Wade ... all Wade. Maybe Tate, but I think that was more Gary than Rick. Smith has shown this organization absolutely nothing. Imho.
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Yes he does. Arian was pure luck, nothing to do with Smith. Mario was Charlies pick. Myers was thought to be a bust and then turned things around. last year was Wade ... all Wade. Maybe Tate, but I think that was more Gary than Rick. Smith has shown this organization absolutely nothing.
Huh? Duane Brown was his pick, Tate was his pick (don't pick and choose who picked who when you don't really know), Cushing his pick etc... The guy isn't a failure at getting talent on this team... I don't think he's the greatest GM in the world (Okoye, MAYBE Jackson but it's still early), but he's for sure not horrible and has overseen the process of the Texans loading this team with great talent...
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Yes he does. Arian was pure luck, nothing to do with Smith. Mario was Charlies pick. Myers was thought to be a bust and then turned things around. last year was Wade ... all Wade. Maybe Tate, but I think that was more Gary than Rick. Smith has shown this organization absolutely nothing. Imho.
Wow I think that's a little unfair. I'm not going to waste time by going through all our players and moves but just wanted to comment on this a little. You CANNOT discount Myers like that. They saw something in Myers for them to trade a 6th rd pick for him (a steal). While most fans thought he was a "bust" some of us saw steady improvement and wanted to stick with him. The FO felt the same way, luckily and didn't give up on him. Smith was the one that gave Foster a 2-year deal while all the other GMs that wanted him (how many who knows?) wouldn't do that... he took a chance that others wouldn't. Look at the way he as navigated the draft trading down in '08 to pick up Duane Brown AND Steve Slaton. Look at the way he traded down in '10 and then back up again to ensure we got Tate. Look at the the way he navigated free agency last year, almost landing Asomugha but dealing with both Joseph's and Manning's agents at the same time and going with them instead. Sure some of the players may be Wade's, or Gary's or the Head Scout's... but in FA he's the one that deals with them and their agents. Pretty sure Glover Quin was his guy among many others...

I'm not going to pretend he's the greatest ever. There's been plenty of mistakes. Probably too many to name but to pretend that doesn't happen in every single other ball club is asinine. The bottom line is the combination of Smith and Kubiak and picking up Wade has made this club one of the better ones. Look at the roster from top to bottom, particularly the acquisitions since 2007 and it's light years ahead of most other teams.

We simply can't place all the blame or all the success on a single guy (ie Kubiak, Smith, Wade or McNair). Football is the ultimate team sport and part of building a GREAT franchise is getting the right people in the right positions. Having a good front office is having a team of people that all work together to accomplish the same goals. I think Smith, Kubiak and Wade are a GREAT team.
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Yes he does. Arian was pure luck, nothing to do with Smith. Mario was Charlies pick. Myers was thought to be a bust and then turned things around. last year was Wade ... all Wade. Maybe Tate, but I think that was more Gary than Rick. Smith has shown this organization absolutely nothing. Imho.
How was Foster luck? Team researched and selected him over 31 other teams. They did not flip a coin.
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