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Old 03-13-2012   #1
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Default Why is Kareem and other dead weight still here but not Winston?!?!

Cut Winston, WTF?!?!?! Ok fine, we need cap room, but what about the garbage on our payroll? Kareem Jackson? Jacoby? Jeff Garcia? Jake Delhomme?

Those two washed up QBs at league minimum are eating a few million, and Kareem Jax as a 1st rounder ain't cheap!

Why? Why? Why?
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This isn't really needed.

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Kareem's lack of playmaking is frustrating...

I would like us to try to get better at corner and really challenge him for that spot...We will be playing some better teams with better passing attacks this season. The rookie QB's in our division will be a year wiser...Luck is entering the fray....

I doubt they cut Kareem, but it wouldn't shock me if they did.
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Kareem is trash. Our front office has a bad habit of keeping trash around just because they were first rounds picks: see Okoye, Travis Johnson, Kareem, and most importantly, David Carr.

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Kareem's lack of playmaking is frustrating...

I would like us to try to get better at corner and really challenge him for that spot...We will be playing some better teams with better passing attacks this season. The rookie QB's in our division will be a year wiser...Luck is entering the fray....

I doubt they cut Kareem, but it wouldn't shock me if they did.
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Kareem is trash. Our front office has a bad habit of keeping trash around just because they were first rounds picks: see Okoye, Travis Johnson, Kareem, and most importantly, David Carr.
He's not trash.

He does some things well and he does some other things really well.

Locating the ball and making plays on the ball is not one of those things, but he is not "trash"...

Personally, I think we could easily do better there, but I also don't know how he will have improved coming into this season. He could take another jump.
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Probably because the staff thinks they can develop Olinemen whereas they can't do the same with corners.

Not that far out of reality. Also, for as good as Winston was, his cap hit was too high, same kinda goes for Demeco and Owen Daniels which is kinda sad really.
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What's he good at? Giving up game losing catches?escorting opposing WR's to the end zone? He would be a backup on about 25 other teams.

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He's not trash.

He does some things well and he does some other things really well.

Locating the ball and making plays on the ball is not one of those things, but he is not "trash"...

Personally, I think we could easily do better there, but I also don't know how he will have improved coming into this season. He could take another jump.
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We have one CB on our roster who is better. So he stays.
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Cut Winston, WTF?!?!?! Ok fine, we need cap room, but what about the garbage on our payroll? Kareem Jackson? Jacoby? Jeff Garcia? Jake Delhomme?

Those two washed up QBs at league minimum are eating a few million, and Kareem Jax as a 1st rounder ain't cheap!

Why? Why? Why?
Kareem does not impact cap significantly, Eric did. The others you mentioned are probably gone. No one critiqued KJ harder than me day he was drafted but where he is today is not trash. Better & new coaching should continue to help this season.
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What's he good at? Giving up game losing catches?escorting opposing WR's to the end zone? He would be a backup on about 25 other teams.
He did a much better job at sticking with his man this year.

He is also really good at coming up on short passes. He is a very good tackler as well.

Look, I'm not trying to make him out to be Deion...All I'm saying is that he improved a bit last year and he may improve even more going forward...

With Winston we pretty much knew how good it was going to get.
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Cut Winston, WTF?!?!?! Ok fine, we need cap room, but what about the garbage on our payroll? Kareem Jackson? Jacoby? Jeff Garcia? Jake Delhomme?

Those two washed up QBs at league minimum are eating a few million, and Kareem Jax as a 1st rounder ain't cheap!

Why? Why? Why?
Think the 2 old washed-up QBs were on a 1 year deal. So the Texas do not need to release them as they are free agents anyways at 3 PM
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I don't even know if I agree with that...

I think some of the other guys could actually push him for a spot or at the very least playing time this year...
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What's he good at? Giving up game losing catches?escorting opposing WR's to the end zone? He would be a backup on about 25 other teams.
It doesn't matter what he's good at right now. Right now is all about the cap and a little free agency. If Kareem's cap hit is relatively low (Which I believe it is) then he is probably fairly safe from getting cut.
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Kareem's lack of playmaking is frustrating...

I would like us to try to get better at corner and really challenge him for that spot...We will be playing some better teams with better passing attacks this season. The rookie QB's in our division will be a year wiser...Luck is entering the fray....

I doubt they cut Kareem, but it wouldn't shock me if they did.
Has my hatred for Dunta really blinded me so much? I mean I don't remember many "plays" made by Dunta & many around here were considering him nigh pro-bowl caliber.
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Default Re: Why is Kareem and other dead weight still here but not Winston?!?!

Eric Wright, Brandon Carr and even the hated Cortkand Finnegan will all be available in 2 hours, all are miles better than KJax. Yet we can't even figure how to keep our OL in tact.
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Eric Wright, Brandon Carr and even the hated Cortkand Finnegan will all be available in 2 hours, all are miles better than KJax. Yet we can't even figure how to keep our OL in tact.
Chill out man, we don't know how this is going to pan out yet. Let's realize our collective fears before we flip out.
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I'm not going to rant on anything......but I don't see Kareem as being that great. I don't know if I would say trash..he did play good enough last year to climb out of the trash can, but I still can't see a serious (non joking/not just trying to be different) defense of him.

The best defense (that I enjoy) is how he is a run stopper. Nice. I love my DB's to specialize in that

Again, he is finally above P-Burnt status but not by much...

But nothing to panic about IMO....I'm anxious to see what happens here...Texans may have somethig big coming.
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Probably because the staff thinks they can develop Olinemen whereas they can't do the same with corners.

Not that far out of reality. Also, for as good as Winston was, his cap hit was too high, same kinda goes for Demeco and Owen Daniels which is kinda sad really.
OD could be replaced easily in this draft. Wouldn't be surprised or sad to see him go.
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