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Old 03-13-2012   #21
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Hmm not sure I like this cut.. vickers was a lot better than casey last year..
I wouldn't be surprised to see Casey back to TE, Dreessen gone, and who knows about OD, his contract is pretty big and he's slowed a little of late, loads of talent behind him too.

Then they try and take someone either late in the draft or as UDFA to mould into exactly what they want.
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Hmm not sure I like this cut.. vickers was a lot better than casey last year..
Negative! They did not utilize Casey to his potential.
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Hmm not sure I like this cut.. vickers was a lot better than casey last year..
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You can do more things with Casey, but he isn't close to being as good a straight up run blocker as Vickers.
Actually many considered Casey to be more effective in blocking when they were able to compare both of them
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I'm not sure that is the conclusion to draw from Vickers' release...
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Meh, the stats are kinda skewed a tad between Vickers being brought in and having to split a role with Casey, and Casey getting hurt. Vickers started out slow but towards the end of the season after a a handful of starts he started blocking much better, and opening up huge holes for our backs as well as knocking some heads on the other team. I liked the guy personally and think he will be missed, I just think its disrespectful to everyone who has gotten cut so far that JJ wasn't the first one to go before any of them though.
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I don't think this means Casey will automatically be the full time FB.

Expect them to bring in some real competition for that spot either via the draft or UDFA...

I thought Vickers got better as the season went on, but he was nowhere near the dual threat that Casey was, and you can probably find and eaual type bruiser for much cheaper and younger.

I think they felt they could find someone just as good for cheaper and I think that's what some of these cuts are coming down to.

I don't know if there is any grand scheme type stuff going on.

We will have a full off-season this go round, so new guys will have time lo learn and be coached up in the system.
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Hey y'all, guess what?

McClain is re-tweeting that Vickers was released!!! Quick, someone start a thread!
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Which game was it that Vickers had the open path to the endzone but dropped it? Raiders? That, fair or unfair, is the lasting image I have of him.
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Hey y'all, guess what?

McClain is re-tweeting that Vickers was released!!! Quick, someone start a thread!
I love how McGobbler talks about how much in the know he is, but never scoops the story. Never!

"No way Manning is coming to the Texans. He can't even throw the ball."

Not that I want ti to happen. However, if Manning does sign with the Texans, McGobbler just needs to go bye bye and shut up.
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Hell, I wonder what Arian Foster is thinking right now?

"Okay, you just got rid of my RT, now my starting fullback, while my starting center and guard are still up in the air. They paid me for what, now? I'll have to hang up my bowties for a neckbrace if this sh!t keeps happening."

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Which game was it that Vickers had the open path to the endzone but dropped it? Raiders? That, fair or unfair, is the lasting image I have of him.
Didn't he have a horrible drop vs. the Ravens as well? In the playoffs no less.
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How are you holding up with Winston being cut? You were the first thing that I thought of when I heard the news. I know he was really big with your charity. Hopefully he'll continue to give you his support, regardless of what team he goes to.
It is hard news to take I sent him an email thanking him for everything.
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It is hard news to take I sent him an email thanking him for everything.
Like I said, hopefully he'll continue to give you support.
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I believe Sellers from Washington will be available. Been in the same system.
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I don't think this means Casey will automatically be the full time FB.

Expect them to bring in some real competition for that spot either via the draft or UDFA...

I thought Vickers got better as the season went on, but he was nowhere near the dual threat that Casey was, and you can probably find and eaual type bruiser for much cheaper and younger.

I think they felt they could find someone just as good for cheaper and I think that's what some of these cuts are coming down to.

I don't know if there is any grand scheme type stuff going on.

We will have a full off-season this go round, so new guys will have time lo learn and be coached up in the system.
Good Post! Also don't believe they are trying anything huge. Just trying to get the important current and future FA's wrapped up.
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Should have traded Winston to the Ravens for Vonta Leach...
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Which game was it that Vickers had the open path to the endzone but dropped it? Raiders? That, fair or unfair, is the lasting image I have of him.

Sad thing is there were 2 games ..
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I like this guy. He is one dimentional but what a blocker!
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3/6/12: Diehl did a good job of lead blocking for Andre Ellington, but Diehl did not catch a pass in 2011.

8/22/11: Chad Diehl is a powerful lead blocker. He has the ability to run over defenders and blast open holes for running backs. Diehl is not much of a runner or receiver. Over three seasons, he has a total of seven receptions for 39 yards with five carries for eight yards. Diehl has to be a dominant blocker in 2011 to get drafted.

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Thank you Jesus. Thank you Lord..........
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oh well, even still casey still took more snaps according to kuhersky..

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Who played the most on offense in the AFC South in 2011? ... Greg Jones was the only fullback to play at least a third of his teamís snaps. Houstonís James Casey was next in fullback playing time, working 32.39 percent of the Texansí snaps.
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