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Old 03-13-2012   #121
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I think Myers is way too important to let walk honestly, If we can't get Brie, Myers, and Williams, I would rather get Brie and Myers and use the extra cap space from Mario in the FA.
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I'll post what Gosselin from the DMN wrote and I couldn't agree more

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Why is nobody concerned that Houston is prepared to just let Mario Williams walk?

Gosselin: Houston is prepared to let him go because the Texans realize they don't need Mario Williams to play great defense. Playing without him most of last season, they still finished second in the NFL in defense and sixth in sacks. I think the Texans would love to keep Williams at a reasonable price. He would make a good defense even better. But the Texans realize the defense isn't going to collapse without him - like the Cowboys defense would without Ware. Overpaying for Williams would put the Teans in a cap-bind they don't need at this point in their development as a contender. This team is very close to being Super Bowl-ready, with or without Williams. Williams is a superb player and the best pass rusher available. He'll get his money. The Cowboys should at least pick up the phone to inquire.
To play Devil's advocate:

Last year no one knew who Brooks Reed was. No one had any film on the guy. They didn't know his tendancies, strengths or weaknesses. The same will not be true this year. Is there any gaurantee that he will be as effective this coming season, now that teams will have a season to study? No.

That said, I still have my same opinion on Mario and that is I like him and would love to keep him, but as many have stated "at the right price" as to not hamstring the rest of the cap.
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To play Devil's advocate:

Last year no one knew who Brooks Reed was. No one had any film on the guy. They didn't know his tendancies, strengths or weaknesses. The same will not be true this year. Is there any gaurantee that he will be as effective this coming season, now that teams will have a season to study? No.

That said, I still have my same opinion on Mario and that is I like him and would love to keep him, but as many have stated "at the right price" as to not hamstring the rest of the cap.
True TB. But as you finished up saying you don't want to cut everyone and then blow the bank on one guy when you still think you can have an elite D. But you are right in the sense that coordinators can look more at Reed now.
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For the first time this offseason, I'm starting to have my doubts that the Texans will be able to bring Chris Myers back at center next year

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I'm hearing the Texans are not close to a deal with Chris Myers or Mike Brisiel so I don't think Winston was cut in order to fit them in.

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I have a gut feeling we're targeting a big name FA WR, and idk why. Schaub can't get him the ball if we have no o-line.
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I have a gut feeling we're targeting a big name FA WR, and idk why. Schaub can't get him the ball if we have no o-line.
We're defintely targeting someone BIG. I don't think these moves are just about Mario and Myers. Someone else is on their radar screen.
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I'm pissed and I have a terrible feeling in my stomach.

Ugh.

Maybe we're going after Carl Nicks? I hope not. For some reason that guy screams "money hungry punk" to me.
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Its strange that all cuts been on the offense.
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How is it smart when it was shown you can make a true run with other guys. Paying him large amounts of cash..which is what his price is going to be...at the sake of continuity on the O-line, LBS, etc makes zero sense to me. Signing the other O-linemen and adding some other FAs not named Mario makes more sense.

It's smart b/c:

-He's an elite talent & part of the core of this team

- He's by far our most versatile Front 7 guy as he can play DE, NT & OLB.

- quality depth can be had in the draft...

-Our schedule looks to be tougher in 2012 as far as offenses go.

- And as the old saying goes, you can never have enough pass rushers

I remember this same kinda talk regarding leach last year. "we need to get leach back in the fold...he's just so vital to our run game & Arian.." well a year layer we've got 2 1000 yd rushers on the team 1 of which has shown himself to be a bondafide stud. So in other words, Arian's made those guys some money too; In fact, i think the FO has cast their lot on the whole situation by going on ahead & locking Arian up long term (when they didn't necessarily have to do it b/c he was a RFA) & taking the wait and see approach with Meyers & Brisiel.

People forget that over 1/2 of our O-line was brought here through FA when noone else wanted those guys and that this "continuity" is a myth. Brisiel has missed more than his fair share of games these last 2 years & Brown missed 4 in 2010. Through that time Arian & now Tate have been able to do their thing regardless of who was in on the o-line. Believe me, i understand that our o-line is part of why we've had so much success these last couple of years, but for all this team's success on offense these last few years, our o-line didn't become "great" until Arian started taking snaps at RB.

The other thing to factor in is Kubes' success bringing in O-linemen over the years.

Winston
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Studdard (quality depth)

All of these guys were brought here via FA or the draft under this regime. Hell even the one's that we think weren't very good (Black, Salaam) were still upgrades over what we had from the Capers regime. & if i had to pick 1 area & be confident that kubes could find adequate replacements at in the draft & in FA it's the o-line. i think Meyers & Brown are only guys that are a must we bring back on the o-line. everyone else can be replaced.
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I hope it isn't true a Demeco. The guy is the heart of this defense. What also sucks is getting all the way to the point of the playoffs and then getting cut. Thank you for your services but no thanks. I don't like it. He is one of the reasons the Texans even got to the playoffs. The Texans could be cutting their own throat if they start cutting out the "vital organs" on this team. I'm gonna wait and see on all this and hope for the best.
BUT think of what he gets paid vs. amount of time on the field?

I would hope they offer him a paycut before cutting him.
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Man we really need to resign Myers but if he wants some ridiculous Mangold or Kalil contract...Peter Konz + Plus some UFA, welcome to Houston. Can't believe that we are not close to negotiations with Brisiel, how much money could he reasonably ask for. Well, I sure hope we resign Myers and Brisiel. Very exciting time of the year.
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I'm hearing the Texans are not close to a deal with Chris Myers or Mike Brisiel so I don't think Winston was cut in order to fit them in.

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According to source close to Texans, there appears to have been a shift in there FA strategy over the last 3-5 days. Something big coming?
Tells me that Meyers already has something lined up with another team & he's trying to get the texans to match it....Brisiel? well i don't know what he's thinking.
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Tells me that Meyers already has something lined up with another team & he's trying to get the texans to match it....Brisiel? well i don't know what he's thinking.
Yep.
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Tells me that Meyers already has something lined up with another team & he's trying to get the texans to match it....Brisiel? well i don't know what he's thinking.
Wouldn't that be tampering? Not that it doesn't happen ...
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BUT think of what he gets paid vs. amount of time on the field?

I would hope they offer him a paycut before cutting him.
Would Demeco take a pay cut though? I'm guessing given his injury limitations, he may worry about his ability to stick around in future years, and his ability to perform and stick on a new team. Maybe he gambles that his contract isn't favorable to cutting him and he picks up his 5.9m this season wondering if he'll ever see that sort of paycheck again?

The NFL can be cruel and Demeco has been cut down in his prime. Sure he gave his all while he was on the field and in limited snaps he performed as well as could be expected but on the field, he's now overpaid.

I also think the NFL is awash with talent at the position right now, as is our team. Everything except his leadership is totally replaceable right now. Shame to say it.
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Wouldn't that be tampering? Not that it doesn't happen ...
well of course, but how else do think these "rumors" start about how teams are getting ready to push "hard" for this guy or that guy. How do NFL insiders even find this crap out? All teams & players have to do is filter conversations through their agent & there's no big worry about teams getting penalized for tampering...it's 1 of the biggest jokes in sports....right behind the MLB all-star games deciding home field adv. for the WS.
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I agree. Well, I would disagree with Wade, but I agree that Wade would be behind the re-signing.
Disagree with Wade? Really?

I have enough respect for Wade Phillips to where if he wants Mario back, an I'm pretty sure he does, then that's good enough for me. It is really quite that simple.

As someone else said, which I agree with, they aren't going to let anyone out that door unless they think he's replaceable. They are making moves.that nobody saw coming. That's what good teams do
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I liken this whole Mario thing to my basketball team, the Suns, making the decision to let go of Amare Stoudemire.

Both great, athletic masterpieces. Huge contributors, great players. Ultimately though, too much money, and too many questions. Injuries a problem, perceptions of not always playing hard, etc. Like Amare, Mario wants the guaranteed money, and that's just not feasible. You want to keep those guys on your team forever since they're so rare, but tough decisions have to be made. Ultimately, letting Amare go was the best thing for the team, as he looks a shell of himself (not due to no Nash, btw) in NY.

Let's just hope we do a better job replacing Mario than the Suns did replacing Amare, lol.
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Disagree with Wade? Really?

I have enough respect for Wade Phillips to where if he wants Mario back, an I'm pretty sure he does, then that's good enough for me. It is really quite that simple.

As someone else said, which I agree with, they aren't going to let anyone out that door unless they think he's replaceable. They are making moves.that nobody saw coming. That's what good teams do
I'm a little worried about selling the farm for Mario though. Defense wins Championships? Not anymore, QB's win championships, we're in the era of the 5000 yard QB and rules that say you have to wait for a receiver to be ready before you lay a hit on him.

Its nice having a great pass-rush, but at the cost of giving your injury-troubled, immobile QB a pocket to throw from? Thats some scary **** right there.
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