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Old 03-12-2012   #61
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If they believe that fully, wouldn't Schaub then be a candidate as well?
Quarterbacks don't grow on trees.

We have replacements lined up for every single player we cut so far.

Schaub? Nope...

Unless you got the scoop on Manning (but don't tell pancakes, you'll upset him)
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Cutting Demeco would actually save $2.1 mil on the cap. And, if they called it a post June 1st cut, it would save about $4.5 million on this year's cap.
Someone wrote that Lance Zierlein said it would save only 900k this year so I was trying to reason as to why they would cut Ryans if it saved less than a million against the cap. I'm sure that you are know more about contracts and cap ramifications than I do. Let you guys figure that out.
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Default Re: Jerome Solomon reporting Demeco and Jacoby are supposedly being cut tomorrow

Sorry but i think your buddy gave out bad info.
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Jacoby getting the ax, I can believe, if I were GM he never would have gotten on the plane in Baltimore. As for Demeco I'll believe it when I see it, right now this is just rumor.
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Could be, I dunno about the workings of that.
I think they would. He has more value to the Texans than any other team due to his locker room presence, team captin,...ect. Guy did rupture his Achilles Tendon and if cloak and dagger (Doctor who posts here) is correct his future production numbers don't look to bright given the type of injury, statically. He is not holding a ton of "leverage".
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Default Re: Jerome Solomon reporting Demeco and Jacoby are supposedly being cut tomorrow

I assume we plan to replace Demeco, JJ, Winston thru the draft? Is it not risky to replace these guys with rookies? Here's to hoping the 2012 Texans can maintain the same level of play with what looks to be quite a few changes.

Also can someone explain how the Texans can simply cut a player? Are there any penalties? I'm assuming the NFL just has lower guaranteed thresholds (ex compared to NBA) and they can just cut players once thresholds are crossed without any penalty?
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Wouldn't they have to wait until June 1st to see the savings on the cap? What would that accomplish?
Lucky, I'm about 95% certain they altered the rule so that teams can make those cuts early and designate them as June 1st cuts... The reason for the alteration was to avoid veterans missing the free agent market while the teams waited for June to cut them.
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Default Re: Jerome Solomon reporting Demeco and Jacoby are supposedly being cut tomorrow

I love meco but something needed to be done with his contract &if he was unwilling to restructure....see ya. as for his replacement...Sharpton should be ok...but if not we can hit the draft ......& curtis lofton is available in FA & he's better than demeco.
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Sorry but i think your buddy gave out bad info.
Yeah, I listened to podcast of Solomon on 610. It's possible it could have been misconstrued, because they do talk about the effects of cutting Demeco.
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Lucky, I'm about 95% certain they altered the rule so that teams can make those cuts early and designate them as June 1st cuts... The reason for the alteration was to avoid veterans missing the free agent market while the teams waited for June to cut them.
Each team is allowed to cut two players as June 1st cuts prior to June 1st.
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Someone wrote that Lance Zierlein said it would save only 900k this year so I was trying to reason as to why they would cut Ryans if it saved less than a million against the cap. I'm sure that you are know more about contracts and cap ramifications than I do. Let you guys figure that out.
Salary is about $6 million and the prorated signing bonus is $1.25 for the next 4 years. Therefore, the 2012 cap hit would be $7.25. Instead, if he's cut all $5 million of the bonus comes do: $5 million cap hit instead of $7.25 mil... And, they could spread that $5 million evenly over two years, giving them a 2012 cap savings of $4.75 million.
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Yeah, I listened to podcast of Solomon on 610. It's possible it could have been misconstrued, because they do talk about the effects of cutting Demeco.
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Each team is allowed to cut two players as June 1st cuts prior to June 1st.
Well, $4.5 million would be quite a bit of savings. And frankly, Dobbins looked real good at the end of the season. I'd hate to lose DeMeco's leadership. But, it's the kind of tough decision every team with talent eventually has to make.
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For Winston we have Butler, for JJ we have Jean or a dirt cheap UFA, but we do not have anybody to come right in for Ryans. I believe Sharpton suffered a torn quad and Dobbins is a free agent. A rookie would be really risky if he is not the ILB from BC or Alabama. For that reason and for Ryan's locker room leadership I believe that they would attempt to sign him to a lesser contract if he is cut tomorrow. He and his agent have to be cognizant of the fact that it is highly unlikely that another team is going to offer him a huge contract due to the fact that he ruptured his Achilles Tendon not too long ago. That is a MAJOR injury. Whole different level that a torn pectoral muscle. That's why I think if we cut Ryans we will try to sign him to a cheaper contract.
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Soloman is just butt hurting now and throwing **** out hoping it sticks. Dude doesn't know jack about the Texans. Him and Warner have been crying like little beaches all night.
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They re-sign MW and move Reed to ILB

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They re-sign MW and move Reed to ILB

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you're laughing, but it'd get all those guys on the field for every down & alot of that blitzing that cush does could be shifted to reed.
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I assume we plan to replace Demeco, JJ, Winston thru the draft? Is it not risky to replace these guys with rookies? Here's to hoping the 2012 Texans can maintain the same level of play with what looks to be quite a few changes.

Also can someone explain how the Texans can simply cut a player? Are there any penalties? I'm assuming the NFL just has lower guaranteed thresholds (ex compared to NBA) and they can just cut players once thresholds are crossed without any penalty?
JJ can be replaced in the draft fairly easily. I assume Sharpton will become the starter alongside Cushing and then they can draft a rookie to play in Sharpton's role. I don't know if they'd start a rookie on the line to replace Winston. Except Kalil, I don't know if there is a T in the draft that should be starting on day 1.
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you're laughing, but it'd get all those guys on the field for every down & alot of that blitzing that cush does could be shifted to reed.
What do you think the chances are that these cuts were made to re-sign MW?

Something big appears to be up.
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That obscure with a McClain joke? I can't quote text messages in this forum. Sorry but thems the breaks kid.

And no, I make about 10x what an IHOP waiter makes.
If this came from a source other than Solomon and without a link , at the very least the title is mis-leading .... Whether there is truth to the report or not , at this point its nothing more than rumor has it.
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Cutting Demeco would actually save $2.1 mil on the cap. And, if they called it a post June 1st cut, it would save about $4.5 million on this year's cap.
I think you're looking at Spotrac when you say that, and I'm pretty sure that it doesn't reflect the restructure DeMeco did last year in order to sign JJo and Manning. I've never seen the figures related to the restructure, but if all they did was guarantee money and lower DeMeco's 2011 cap amount, then that will raise the amount of dead money associated with cutting him now.

I'm gonna guess this is all BS coming from nowhere credible (well, at least the cutting DeMeco part - could well be true regarding Jacoby).
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