Eric Winston released?????

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Maddict5

also nobody would trade for him??

I was wondering that meself....

[Bulls on Parade]

Originally Posted by DonnyMost

If Mike and Chris aren't resigned tomorrow afternoon this is going to be a royal failboat.

I want Mario Williams re-signed first and foremost.

[Kaiser Toro]

I was a proponent of drafting him and re-signing him, but his contract was over valued.

I can't say Butler provides efficiency as a backfill, but do expect a RT to be taken in the early rounds or tinker with Brisiel at RT.

[Wolf]

no no no no

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Hardcore Texan

He's a TE so he's safe.

Winston was a mauler in the run game but his pass pro could be suspect at times, maybe there is an upgrade coming? Gotta lock down Myers and Briesel for sure now.

Yeah , his pass protection was questionable at times. I recall one time this past year that he whiffed on a block and got Schaub hammered ..... Maybe someone can find that one on Youtube.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Hopefully the OL will look like this

Brown/ W.Smith/ Myers/ Briesel/ Butler

I wonder if a promise was made to Butler last year. I thought surely he would be gone, wisked off by another team & starting somewhere in this league.

Had he not been hurt this year, I wonder how that RT position would have played out.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Yeah , his pass protection was questionable at times. I recall one time this past year that he whiffed on a block and got Schaub hammered ..... Maybe someone can find that one on Youtube.

Was that Schaub or Yates?

Because if it was Schaub then he also did it to Yates.

It was agains the Falcons...The DE just ran right past him and leveled TJY.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by gafftop

Don't tell me they are doing this to keep Mario

I honestly don't know what's going on. Last I saw we are $5M over the cap & still need to sign Myers & Brisiel.

[SW H-TOWN]

Originally Posted by skenney_11

Like someone previously mentioned, maybe Jones and others have been cut be its not been announced yet.

Good point but I'm pretty sure that Jones would have tweeted something unintelligible by now. That guy makes me cringe when I read his tweets. He needs to take some grammar lessons from Foster.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by Rey

Was that Schaub or Yates?

Because if it was Schaub then he also did it to Yates.

It was agains the Falcons...The DE just ran right past him and leveled TJY.

I recall it being early in the season .... so it had to be Schaub , the one against the Falcons had slipped my mind .... but that was a brutal one Yates took.

[D1DAVE]

Originally Posted by Bulls on Parade

I want Mario Williams re-signed first and foremost.

I disagree. If Mario goes, you get Jacoby gone and sign the o-line back up, get Winstons replacement I think we are good.. Of course that is if the rookies on defense do not have a bad 2nd season. IMHO

[bckey]

Gotta say I was shocked at the news. The Texans really need to get Myers signed. I bet Foster is sweatin bullets right now after signing a long term contract with only 2 olinemen on board so far. I'd be bending Rick's ear to get me my big boys up front signed.

And yes Jacoby should be gone. Not for the one play in the playoffs but his full body of work since he has been a Texan. He sucks.

[drs23]

Originally Posted by Hagar

Yep

Whether or not its Butler or someone else, you have to thinkk Smithiak has a plan.

Also, a lot of people want the Texans to be more like Pittsburgh (myself included). Well the Steelers cut veteran players whose salaries are bigger than thier production all the time. So far this year the Steelers have released Hines Ward, Aaron Smith, James Farrier and Chris Kemoeatu.

I'm just happy we've finally gotten to a place were we can cut good players like Winston and have Butler step into his spot.

Good luck Caveman!

Thanks Hagar for posting this. It's about verbatim of how I was going to respond.

So many folks have blasted the FO for ineptness, being too conservative, being too cheap and many other things but I think this move indicates those views are unsubstantiated.

There's no way #73 gets released willy fk'n nilly. There's a solid plan in place and I'm going to give them credit for knowing what they're doing. Where all this leads and whether or not it will be successful remains to be seen. But I've got to believe the FO has a plan, a goal and the steps to be taken necessary to achieve same.

I'll go on record and say we'll probably see a few more "surprises".

As many have posted "if you're not getting better, you're getting worse".

I think things will really heat up in the next few days/weeks.

I'm gonna hide-n-watch. (With popcorn and a beer).

What else can a mother do?

[fiasco west]

Originally Posted by D1DAVE

I disagree. If Mario goes, you get Jacoby gone and sign the o-line back up, get Winstons replacement I think we are good.. Of course that is if the rookies on defense do not have a bad 2nd season. IMHO

Which seems to always be a big if when it comes to the Texans. I would not risk it to rely on rookies although I'm sure Watt is a stud future multi-time Pro Bowler...I'm not really sure on Reed personally, he just doesn't pass the eye test to me.

[chicagotexan2]

Dang who knob is josh ines going to bob now? First pollard leaves him now Winston. He's ok I do think he's over rated. I hope butler can get the job done.

[D1DAVE]

Originally Posted by fiasco west

Which seems to always be a big if when it comes to the Texans. I would not risk it to rely on rookies although I'm sure Watt is a stud future multi-time Pro Bowler...I'm not really sure on Reed personally, he just doesn't pass the eye test to me.

Yeah I'm down with that for sure. Reed seems fine with me, just worried about a letdown on defense.. If that happens than I'm wrong about Mario. Crapshoot at best.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I honestly don't know what's going on. Last I saw we are $5M over the cap & still need to sign Myers & Brisiel.

You had $18M coming off from Mario and however much (~$9M?) from Winston and the AJ restructure.

[Texan_Bill]

While I like Winston and think he is a decent tackle, we would be well served to take that money and put it towards Meyers and Briesel. Give up one piece to save two others? I'm down, yo!!

That said, if the Texans lose either Meyers or Briesel, the FO will have some 'splainin' to do!!!

[MistaRed]

Postponing judgement until I know where they're going with this. Right now though, not sure if I like it.

[DonnyMost]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

While I like Winston and think he is a decent tackle, we would be well served to take that money and put it towards Meyers and Briesel. Give up one piece to save two others? I'm down, yo!!

That said, if the Texans lose either Meyers or Briesel, the FO will have some 'splainin' to do!!!

The timing should be very telling.

Tomorrow is the deadline, we likely tried to negotiate with these guys all we could, but now we're up against the wall and the only way we can keep them both is to cut Winston. Makes a lot of sense. If they don't sign, I'll be pissed at Myers/Briesel, but only disappointed with the FO, as they obviously tried very hard.