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Old 03-12-2012   #221
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Again, just thinking out loud on this (I tend to do that).
Again, I think you're reading too much into this. This is the same organization that produces Shaun Cody's weekly bit. Kubiak has a show on 610 every week. So does Matt Schaub. Arian Foster has maybe 2 or 3 shows on yahoo sports radio. They didn't cut him.
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Again, I think you're reading too much into this. This is the same organization that produces Shaun Cody's weekly bit. Kubiak has a show on 610 every week. So does Matt Schaub. Arian Foster has maybe 2 or 3 shows on yahoo sports radio. They didn't cut him.
I bet they asked him to restructure and he said no .
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Again, I think you're reading too much into this. This is the same organization that produces Shaun Cody's weekly bit. Kubiak has a show on 610 every week. So does Matt Schaub. Arian Foster has maybe 2 or 3 shows on yahoo sports radio. They didn't cut him.
They produce. Winston was starting to slip.
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Again, I think you're reading too much into this. This is the same organization that produces Shaun Cody's weekly bit. Kubiak has a show on 610 every week. So does Matt Schaub. Arian Foster has maybe 2 or 3 shows on yahoo sports radio. They didn't cut him.
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I bet they asked him to restructure and he said no .
Its been said that they told Winston that they were not going to "insult" him by asking to restructure.

Jeez. It's a kill or be killed business.
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They produce. Winston was starting to slip.
Agreed. Which is why it has everything to do with production/salary and nothing to do with radio shows.
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This move worries me a little. Is he probably overrated? Yes. Did he miss blocks in the passing game? Yes. He was a great run blocker and I think an important part of the success we have had in that facet of the game. Overall, I think our line success is more about the sum of the parts than individual pieces. I hope they can find someone that can step in to that role. Maybe it will be Butler.
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The guy's been a bull for a lot of years. We better draft well.
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This doesn't surprise me all that much when I think about it. Winston got found out early in the season and I wouldn't be surprised if it led to a change in assignments to cover his weaknesses.

He was earning quality starter money @ $5.5 whilst being pretty middle of the road at best in performance.

He's been a great guy to have around, and in my mind at least will be remembered as one of the key components in the Texans' rise from the dross but at some point you've got to move on from the guys who made a bunch of scrubs look exactly what they were and try and find someone on the same level as the rest of the team.

I've asked this question before in a Winston related thread and didn't get an answer, but am I right in thinking Butler doesn't really fit @ RT as well as he does at LT?

If thats the case i'm wondering how we fill that position, we took a guy very late in last years draft but I don't know if he's still on the team, maybe he was sick on PS all season, but I doubt it.

Is anyone capable of calming me down a little bit here though? For all that I understand them cutting these guys (EW, DR, JJ, all overpaid based on their current abilities, take injuries and radio shows out of the equation, its a fact) but these cuts suddenly coming off the back of the announcement that the cap will be lower than anticipated, are the Texans making well thought-out pre-meditated moves to help the team here, are they clearing space to make a splash...or...have they simply shot their bolt, are in cap hell, and having to cut players they'd planned on keeping around. I mean, as things stand they need to get a starting C, RG, RT signed, are relying on their depth at WR, ILB and will desperately need quality OLB depth too.

When the season ended we all thought we had no glaring needs but wouldn't it be nice if they got a decent WR?

I sure hope I've just over-reacted big time, its not the actually cuts that worry me, they are all positions where we could do better for our money, its the reasoning behind them.
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"I was surprised," he told the newspaper. "They told me they were up against it (salary cap), and they didn’t want to insult me by asking me to take a pay cut. They said they hated to do it, and maybe we could work something out, but, well, I’m just stunned. I didn’t want to leave. This just sucks."
I just don't understand this. This is a business, you ask people to restructure all the time. Why the hell wouldn't you ask Eric Winston to restructure his deal, add a year or two and spread out some money. I just don't get it.
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Winston was over rated by the media and his super agent. His play just wasn't up to par. Our line's performance sunk after the bye week. It wasn't all briesel, and they might have used that tape to decide Eric was even worse than they thought.


I'm fine with this. Kubiak can find new linemen.
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Again, I think you're reading too much into this. This is the same organization that produces Shaun Cody's weekly bit. Kubiak has a show on 610 every week. So does Matt Schaub. Arian Foster has maybe 2 or 3 shows on yahoo sports radio. They didn't cut him.
Cody is a Texans-produced product.

The others you stated? They handle their business. Winston and David Anderson? Media clowns.

Again, like it's been said...Winston might have cared more about the off-the-field stuff and it caught up with him. With everything that surrounds him, and for what he was being paid, he didn't handle his business.

I am not saying, once again!, that he was fired directly because of his show. I am saying his show might have played a part in his declining career in Houston because he started to slip and thought he was on of Bob's kids who are never to be hassled with.

I'm not as dense as I'm being made out to be. I'm fully aware other players and the HC have media gigs.
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I just don't understand this. This is a business, you ask people to restructure all the time. Why the hell wouldn't you ask Eric Winston to restructure his deal, add a year or two and spread out some money. I just don't get it.
He might be worse than meets the eye? Maybe his agent goofed? Or maybe the Texans felt they could save the money and start anew at RT somehow?

Lots we don't know (yet).
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His agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Also no one does more media than Winston, he has a 4 hour web show, 1-2 hour radio show. He is at best the 3rd best O-Lineman we have. Who cares.
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I bet Winston gets signed by another team for more than the 5 mil he was going to make with the Texans. I can't explain it, but he is so overrated by people outside of Houston for some reason???

I'm surprised, but not too disappointed. I think Butler will finally get his shot to start in this league, and he'll play well. He's an upgrade in pass pro, but a downgrade in run blocking... definitely worth the savings.

If Winston's salary was needed in order to re-sign Myers, then I'd do this every time.
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ProFootballFocus was shocked:

17:50 RELEASE! And this is a real shocker. So much so that even though it comes from the twitter account of Eric Winston with heartfelt thanks to the Texan fans, you kind of think he must be pulling our leg. Winston was close to making our All Pro team at right tackle, and has been one of the most consistent right tackles in the league, earning a +31.2 grade over the past three years. That has come completely out of left field and really shakes up the offensive tackle market, with the dependable and talented Winston immediately becoming the best tackle available. For a line built on continuity that move could cause issues for the Texans.
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Knew this would happen.. the O-line is as strong as its weakest link.. which was winston.. good move texans..
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Knew this would happen.. the O-line is as strong as its weakest link.. which was winston.. good move texans..
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Like everyone else. WOW.
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