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Old 09-24-2012   #101
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Really?? And I'm not trying to be offensive here. Are we really concerned whether or not we'll get a punter back???
Um, he DID have a cannon for a leg, I doubt people are overly depressed about this LOL, but he was a VERY good punter. Not to mention his ability to nail it in the endzone on kickoffs with ease.
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Really?? And I'm not trying to be offensive here. Are we really concerned whether or not we'll get a punter back???
Maybe I'm missing something because I didn't read the whole thread, but were people really thinking we were gonna bring him back?
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Maybe I'm missing something because I didn't read the whole thread, but were people really thinking we were gonna bring him back?
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He's not coming back?
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Really?? And I'm not trying to be offensive here. Are we really concerned whether or not we'll get a punter back???
I was a little seeing as how we cant get a kickoff into the endzone consistently
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Jones would have had to have been terrible, which he hasn't been. Graham hasn't been great on kickoffs, but he's not hurting the team on them either. We're kicking and punting situations are fine. Unless Hartmann can return kicks and punts he won't have a shot at being on this roster until next year.
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He's not coming back?
Yes, he was released during the pre season
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I expected him back after his suspension. Marciano said he's the best KO man he's ever seen at the end of the preseason.
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Jones would have had to have been terrible, which he hasn't been. Graham hasn't been great on kickoffs, but he's not hurting the team on them either. We're kicking and punting situations are fine. Unless Hartmann can return kicks and punts he won't have a shot at being on this roster until next year.
You asked. I gave the obvious answer. I still think Hartmann is a better punter; regardless of how good Jones has been. We should have the best available player that we can afford on the roster. His kickoff's thru the back of the endzone helps hide deficiencies in coverage.
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Meh. Who cares. Jones has been fine. Cut Hartmann.
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You asked. I gave the obvious answer. I still think Hartmann is a better punter; regardless of how good Jones has been. We should have the best available player that we can afford on the roster. His kickoff's thru the back of the endzone helps hide deficiencies in coverage.
You also have to remember he's coming off of a major knee injury so no one has any idea what kind of punter he is right now. I trust the FO to make the best decision possible for this team, and if that's Jones then I'm sure they feel like he's better right now.
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You also have to remember he's coming off of a major knee injury so no one has any idea what kind of punter he is right now. I trust the FO to make the best decision possible for this team, and if that's Jones then I'm sure they feel like he's better right now.
It was a torn ACL. If he were punting rugby style I'd be concerned.

Wasn't he one the preseason roster? I have no doubt he'd be our P in not for this ADHD situation. Regardless he won't be on our roster anytime soon.
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It was a torn ACL. If he were punting rugby style I'd be concerned.

Wasn't he one the preseason roster? I have no doubt he'd be our P in not for this ADHD situation. Regardless he won't be on our roster anytime soon.
An ACL tear is a major injury so I have my doubts he would have been 100 percent back to his old self so soon and been our punter to start the season. Jones would have been brought in anyway so the best man would have won the job. If I'm not mistaken Hartmann could have punted in the preseason some, but wasn't healthy enough to do so. The team made a decision and so far I'm satisfied with the results. He was decent last year, but he wasn't all world. I doubt he would have had any noticeable effect on the games if he was playing.

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Really?? And I'm not trying to be offensive here. Are we really concerned whether or not we'll get a punter back???
Umm.. joke all you want, but punter is a very important position to a team as well. Lest you forget the end of the Matt Turk era... *shudders*
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Umm.. joke all you want, but punter is a very important position to a team as well. Lest you forget the end of the Matt Turk era... *shudders*
He's a great holder on Extra Points and Field Goals?

I think we may have just seen the end of a good Punter tbh, Jones is ok but he isn't a revelation in the field position game, then again, we aren't going to be that reliant on field position given how dominant we look on both sides of the ball.
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Regardless of whether we're reliant on it or not, field position wins games. It IS important. I'd be clamoring for him to be coming back ASAP but Jones has been pretty good so far.
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An ACL tear is a major injury so I have my doubts he would have been 100 percent back to his old self so soon and been our punter to start the season. Jones would have been brought in anyway so the best man would have won the job. If I'm not mistaken Hartmann could have punted in the preseason some, but wasn't healthy enough to do so. The team made a decision and so far I'm satisfied with the results. He was decent last year, but he wasn't all world. I doubt he would have had any noticeable effect on the games if he was playing.
It's a major injury for a RB yes. I tore my ACL and meniscus, had surgery in September, and I'm fine...and I don't have a professional medical staff like he would have. Then again I'm only the victim of a jogging accident but still this wasn't a MacGhee type tear.
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You probably can't be cut while on suspension/injury so he'll probably just go IR the rest of the year...
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You probably can't be cut while on suspension/injury so he'll probably just go IR the rest of the year...
HE IS ALREADY A FREE AGENT NOW. He was released by the Texans on August 27 prior to the beginning of the season.
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