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Old 03-07-2012   #21
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All the teams you've heard. Dolphins, Redskins, Seattle, KC, Arizona. I do believe the most interesting franchise would be the Texans. We have no indications that they're interested. They do have Matt Schaub, butt he is coming off injury and only has one year left on his deal. That is a team that will be popular pick to be in contention next year. That will be very important to Manning. A team that has a chance to win a super bowl.

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I think teams will be jockeying for position immediately. I think this process will move quickly. I think Peyton wants to get this wrapped up sooner rather than later. And my guess would be by the time FA starts Tuesday, that this is done by then and Peyton has a new home and new team and is off the market by then.

How significant in Peyton's decision do you think guaranteed money will be?

I dont think it will drive the decision at all. Money helps show interest in you but when it comes down to it for Peyton Manning, he is going to want to be in a spot in which he feels most confident he can win. Period. Any team that gets Manning, that team becomes an automatic contender for that division title and a super bowl contender in my mind.

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You have to watch, I dont think its feasible but, what happens in San Francisco with Smith? What happens with Denver? Kansas City may take a run at him. Sleeper teams like that but this boils down to 4 teams: Miami, Washington, Arizona, NY Jets. I believe he'll choose the place he believes gives him the best chance to win. Those are the 4 teams to monitor and watch.

Houston? I know they have Schaub but he has a history of being injury prone and only has 1 year left. If they call me, thats the first call I'm answering.

That's a great outside the box thought. If I were the Texans, I would say, ok let me shop Matt Schaub. Matt Schaub worked with Kyle Shanahan in Houston, Shanahan, the Redskins OC. Let me see if I can get a deal done with Peyton, and trade Schaub to Washington for a couple of twos, which is what you gave up for him. Maybe get a first round pick for him. To me, thats an outside the box thought. Thats the way New York Jets should think. Trade Mark Sanchez to someone like Pete Carroll, his college coach, for a one, two twos, you pick the compensation. Now you've loaded up on picks and get Peyton Manning at QB. But its not going to happen in Houston. The Texans will not be a player as much sense as that might make. That will not happen. Take them out of the equation. Take Tennessee out of the equation. Take teams that there is some logic to that wont work in this particular case and come back to the four teams we laid out. Miami, Washington, Jets, Arizona. Each team can make a compelling argument but it will be fascinating to see how this turns down to go after a QB, from every indication of people who work out with him, that believe hes back. That hes Peyton Manning and he is on the market. You can get him for free. Not like RG3 where you trade up picks.
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Fun, for some, to talk about. But not going to happen.
Yep.

1. Kubiak is loyal. LOYAL. He won't do this because it would appear that, to his players, that he will give up on them and go get the cutest new thing on the market. It's patently outside of his character and historical nature.

2. McNair is not a risk taker. Giving up 2 2's for Schaub was as risky as McNair ever wants to get, and even THAT came off the heels of giving Carr one last ride with Kubiak for a whole season. Acquiring Manning presents awkward logistics and marketing "woes" that he doesn't want to gamble on right now. And then what happens when Manning goes all Ahman Green on us? WE have to turn him out to pasture and WE are the ones that look silly for giving him his last chance. It's not in McNair's blood to do this sort of thing.

3. Manning + Kubiak + Offense = Conflict. Yeah, yeah, people say Kubiak could work with Manning just fine. Really? At this stage, I don't think Kubiak wants to let anybody but Kubiak be "the guy" who calls the plays and runs the risk on said plays.

4. Money. Four or Five teams out there will bid up Manning, IMO. They'll make him overpriced.
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Yes it would be amazing, because he isnt on waivers.
I wouldn't put it past the Jags to put in a waiver claim on him anyways.
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My pick is the Jets.

They hated being a suck team in 2011 and then watching the Giants win the SB.

So they have to dump Sanchez to some poor team like the Jags or the Seahawks, and then add the other Manning to compete with Eli for headlines and media space.

This is a move tailor-made for the Jets. The only thing that would stop it is if Peyton feels so disgusted with the character of Rex Ryan that he can't see himself working with that guy.
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Tell you what the Colts were extremely shrewd when it came to Paytons contract from what I can tell. With a $90 million contract, and a player about to be cut you'd think that Indy would be in Cap Hell, but with Manning hurt I just read the Colts are only on the hook for $1 million in 2012. The whole deal hinged on that $28 million option. I'm impressed with what they did, and although they sucked last year and are going into the rebuilding mode they handling Mannings contract well and lucked out with the timing of his inury situation.

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I love how talking heads try a justify why Manning wouldn't be a good fit in Houston because he doesn't roll out and use play action...

THEN they roll video footage of Manning... DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAY HE CAN'T DO! About 5-6 clips were play action and 2 were him rolling out.

People are telling me Matt Schaub can do something Peyton Manning can't is very, very hard to believe.
the ONLY 2 reason this will not happen is...

1: Kubiak's ego will never let Manning's ego run the offense

2: money

otherwise Manning should already be signed, in a Texans uniform and Schaub traded. I would MUCH rather Yates or whom ever the future is, learning under one of the best QB in the history of the NFL rather a mediocre noodle arm that can barely stay healthy...

BUT that's just me...
Matt is much better at getting hurt than Peyton.
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I really hope that guy isn't listing those in order of likeliness.

If I had to bet, I'd say he's Miami bound.



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I feel the same way.

They have some nice pieces at the skill positions plus when you factor in the revenge factor, Miami plays at Indy next season.
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Arizona Cardinals.

They were burned by the decision to trade for former Eagles backup Kevin Kolb last offseason, but at least they get an escape clause after one disappointing, $12 million year. Recent history also tells us the Cardinals were very happy about the decision to add Kurt Warner late in his career, to the tune of a Super Bowl XLIII appearance. So in Flynn vs. Manning, it’s no surprise they would side with Peyton. They nearly got to the playoffs with John Skelton as the starting quarterback, so they should be dreaming of how far they can get with a healthy Manning. Arizona also has a lot to offer Manning: It’s a low-profile, warm-weather, indoor-stadium destination, and he would inherit a pretty good go-to guy in Larry Fitzgerald.


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Makes sense to me.

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We don't need him here and over pay for damaged goods. That kind of injury you just don't know the effects on a guy. Rick would be better going to the boats in Lake Charles!
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Arizona Cardinals.

They were burned by the decision to trade for former Eagles backup Kevin Kolb last offseason, but at least they get an escape clause after one disappointing, $12 million year. Recent history also tells us the Cardinals were very happy about the decision to add Kurt Warner late in his career, to the tune of a Super Bowl XLIII appearance. So in Flynn vs. Manning, it’s no surprise they would side with Peyton. They nearly got to the playoffs with John Skelton as the starting quarterback, so they should be dreaming of how far they can get with a healthy Manning. Arizona also has a lot to offer Manning: It’s a low-profile, warm-weather, indoor-stadium destination, and he would inherit a pretty good go-to guy in Larry Fitzgerald.


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Makes sense to me.

You might be right. I can envision him in that jersey. Dome stadium too. The divisional rivals are 49ers, Seahawks and Rams. That would look enticing if I'm Manning and choosing my destiny.
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Yup, not gonna happen, I have been tired of hearing about it since this talk started.
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That's because they're not interested. Manning is not coming to Houston unless he's in a visitors uniform. This will come down to the Jets and the Dolphins. My money is on the Jets.
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I wonder how it would go over with the guys in the locker room if they cut Schaub to get Peyton.
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We don't need him here and over pay for damaged goods. That kind of injury you just don't know the effects on a guy. Rick would be better going to the boats in Lake Charles!
In response to the bolded, I don't think that is an accurate statement.

If I understand correctly, as long as the nerve in his neck regenerates, there aren't really any risks to further injury compared to an un-repaired neck.
The repair itself is not the question with Manning, it's whether he regains arm strength or not.

Maybe CnD can chime in here to elaborate further? (I'm sure CnD has posted his opinion on this, but haven't searched for it. If I have a chance, i'll see if I can find anything).
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In response to the bolded, I don't think that is an accurate statement.

If I understand correctly, as long as the nerve in his neck regenerates, there aren't really any risks to further injury compared to an un-repaired neck.The repair itself is not the question with Manning, it's whether he regains arm strength or not.

Maybe CnD can chime in here to elaborate further? (I'm sure CnD has posted his opinion on this, but haven't searched for it. If I have a chance, i'll see if I can find anything).
In response to the bolded, I don't think that's an accurate statement.


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Considering how many players on different teams are already throwing their QB under the bus for Peyton, it might not be a mad reaction.
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If I was Peyton I'd be trying to get san francisco interested in my services.
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Yup, not gonna happen, I have been tired of hearing about it since this talk started.
Same here. Not sure why people are willing to mortgage the future to take a huge risk on a guy coming off major surgery. If Manning isn't 100% by the start of the season or doesn't play like the Peyton of old, all these same people will be blasting the front office for signing him.
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If I was Peyton I'd be trying to get san francisco interested in my services.
Peyton will probably take a long, hard look at SF. But I don't think they can give him enough money, nor do I think Harbaugh and Manning will be a good fit.

Miami, other than being in the same division as the Patriots, seems to be a perfect fit. Tons of money to throw around, a good offensive line, and talented young skill players. The defense needs help in some areas, but they did a commendable job last year with their QB situation hamstringing them so badly. Plus Manning would be given full control of that offense by Philbin.
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