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Old 02-17-2012   #61
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Try 6 years $84m...
There was more money there for him available through incentives, bringing the total potential value of the contract to 91.5MM, but you're right about 6 yrs. He was also 30 when he signed it.

My bottom line is, I want Mario to stay, and I want to believe that he's not going to chase the money, but it's easier said than done, and right now he's just saying all the right things. We'll see what the Texans offer him, and then we'll see what he does.
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The Texans could get Mario for a fair price that doesn't break the bank.

How is this possible you may ask?

Well I heard Mario is working a second job.

Turns out that Mario is also Bob's personal gardener

100 Mill to pull some weeds.

Now that is what I call a fall back job!
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Try 6 years $84m...

No pass rusher is making more than $15m a year in average salary. And Mario made it clear that being the highest paid is not is priority. I expect something in the $11m-$13m range being offered. Maybe we can add some incentives to sweeten the deal...
I personally think Peppers' contract is the high end. I think the Bears over paid Peppers because of the uncapped year. If Mario is expecting more than that then he's not being very honest about his priorities.

Surely there will be some teams willing to overpay for him, that's the way this league works. I expect his average salary to be around $14M. No, I don't think that is over paying now, I think that is the high end of the DE market (two years after Peppers ink'd his deal).

I expect a 2012 cap number around $10M (which will give the Texans enough money to sign Foster & Myers with the dollars they saved vs Mario's $18M salary last season) & I expect a deal that won't lock the Texans up beyond 3 or 4 years.
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I personally think Peppers' contract is the high end. I think the Bears over paid Peppers because of the uncapped year. If Mario is expecting more than that then he's not being very honest about his priorities.

Surely there will be some teams willing to overpay for him, that's the way this league works. I expect his average salary to be around $14M. No, I don't think that is over paying now, I think that is the high end of the DE market (two years after Peppers ink'd his deal).

I expect a 2012 cap number around $10M (which will give the Texans enough money to sign Foster & Myers with the dollars they saved vs Mario's $18M salary last season) & I expect a deal that won't lock the Texans up beyond 3 or 4 years.
You mentioned the 2010 uncapped year. This year's free agency is unique also. New CBA rules have teams able to role over unused cap from the previous season into this one. Also, teams are ramping up to meet the required salary floor of 90%. Some teams, like Cincinnati and Tampa Bay, will be forced to spend upwords of $40 million more per year than they have been. Between those teams and teams that have money to role over and a willingness to spend it, the market for some players will be absurdly high. I think the initial wave of top tier free agents could break records.

For instance, Kansas City or Tampa could pay Mario a $30 million roster bonus in year one and not blink an eye with all the room they have.
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John McClain was speculating that he is going to be pursued by Jacksonville with a big contract since they have the cap space and feel that they need a 4-3 DE to complete their defense.
Cool so Mario will be staying with us!
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No but if you hire someone to do your finances, you would THINK they would bring that to your attention before you made a life changing decision

There is a conflict of interest depending on who is giving him the advice
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You mentioned the 2010 uncapped year. This year's free agency is unique also. New CBA rules have teams able to role over unused cap from the previous season into this one. Also, teams are ramping up to meet the required salary floor of 90%. Some teams, like Cincinnati and Tampa Bay, will be forced to spend upwords of $40 million more per year than they have been. Between those teams and teams that have money to role over and a willingness to spend it, the market for some players will be absurdly high. I think the initial wave of top tier free agents could break records.

For instance, Kansas City or Tampa could pay Mario a $30 million roster bonus in year one and not blink an eye with all the room they have.
The cap floor is not going to be in effect until 2013 so if those teams choose not to spend that money this year, there will be no penalty to them for it.
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I am really starting to think The Texans are gonna try and get all creative and keep Mario. I hear they are gonna franchise Arian, so maybe, jest maybe this can work.
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I am really starting to think The Texans are gonna try and get all creative and keep Mario. I hear they are gonna franchise Arian, so maybe, jest maybe this can work.
I don't understand the idea of franchising Arian..... surely signing him to a long term deal would be more beneficial to the Texans.


And McNair did give him his word.
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I don't understand the idea of franchising Arian..... surely signing him to a long term deal would be more beneficial to the Texans.


And McNair did give him his word.
It buys more time to work on a LT deal if they can't reach one by the beginning of free agency.
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