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Old 02-16-2012   #21
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Sounds to me like his agent is telling him not to his hat to anything yet.

Really hope we can keep him.
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Mario Williams on being the highest paid player...



Furthermore he indicates that he would accept what we think is adequate for the position and what he brings to the team...




Geez you experts who are @$$uming and trying to read between the lines are forgetting to actually read the article. These were his actual words no reading between the lines here...
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sure didn't sound like he was excited to come back to be a part of this.
didn't get that impression from the audio/podcast. maybe i'm just being optimistic tho. i get the "leave business to the businessmen" attitude. dude just wants to play football. and i hope it's for us.
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didn't get that impression from the audio/podcast. maybe i'm just being optimistic tho. i get the "leave business to the businessmen" attitude. dude just wants to play football. and i hope it's for us.
Can't blame him for that. The NFL is a business. I think he'd be happy to be back with the Texans, but it sounds like he'd also be happy to play for someone else.

I'd love to have him here, but it's not absolutely essential. My guess is he's gone.
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Honestly, I came out of this feeling better about Mario staying, but I still think he's gone. He wants to be here, but he doesn't know if we are willing to make it happen.
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He is as good as gone. The Texans played great without him and I really think he wants to be on a team where he is "the guy" and maybe closer to home.
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Mario Williams will stay if he knows what's best for his career. He's going to flourish with 15 to 20 sacks a year in Wade Phillips' system. I still felt like he was barely learning in 2011 but in limited time, he was showing a great pass rush from the outside linebacker position.
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Sounds like his agent is telling him to be careful of what he says so instead he gives vague cookie cutter answers. Good plan.
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Id take the biggest check possible
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Man, I'd love to be in that locker room.... I don't see that "motivation" on TV, not with Phillips on the sideline, I just don't see it.

But I've seen/heard 3 defensive players say they really like the way Wade motivates them. Demeco, Cody, & now Mario.

What the hell does he do?
I would be willing to be that it comes down to the personalities of the players on the team. By that, I mean that with the Cowboys, players complained that he was too "laid back" and things of the sort. Here, the guys like the motivation he gives them.

I would bet pretty confidently that Wade's style works with players who are disciplined and self-motivated. Guys like Cushing, DeMeco, etc. who know what they want and just need an overall direction and a place to fit into the puzzle. These guys probably work best with Wade because they don't need to have a fire lit under their ass.
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To me it sounded like he was iffy on whether he'd be back. He's not going to take some huge discount but he'd probably take a nice, non-insulting offer...
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His answer wasn't YES.
I was thinking about this today. He probably hates it here. He came in amongst the whole Reggie Bush / Vince Young drama, has endured criticism nearly his entire time here, and now has everyone from writers to sports talk callers deprioritizing him in favor of other players, including guys like Mario Manningham or Robert Meachem (i.e. "I'd rather let Mario walk and bring in a WR2"). He's not been exactly beloved.

So, I don't find it really surprising that he's not overly-enthused about staying here in Houston.
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I think the only chance the Texans have is to lock up Mario before he hits the open market. Once the bidding starts, the Texans are out.

If they were REALLY convinced Mario was "the" guy long term, they should have renegotiated his deal in the uncapped year. They could have majorly front loaded the deal and had Mario on the cheap for the next few years...
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Translation: there goes pretty much any hope some guys had around here of nailing a contract down before FA hits. I said it before, he'd be stupid to not to want to test the waters in FA and it certainly looks like thats his plan. I don't blame him.
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Interesting how so many read the same words and have different opinions of what they say. I read the McClain article in Chronicle before signing in here and he left out quite a bit of above imo, http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...n-with-texans/

Most of you know that I would prefer to sign and trade him for picks & to use his 2011 cap reportedly as high as $20m to go get Hicks OG and Bowe WR. Having said that, I was surprisingly in the belief that Mario would prefer to remain a Texan and at a fair price.

He noted that he and Kubes went thru a bit of publicity when Mario was drafted and that he loved his coaches and wished Gary the best. That did not seem like it had anything to do with Mario's plans. He did not say, he wished Kubes the best if I am on another team. We shall see.

He does remain under contract until some date in March.

FYI, combine begins Feb 23rd.
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Honestly, if I was him I would hate it too. From day one his work ethic has been called into question. Then, whenever he did well, people down played his accomplishments. I would hate it
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Honestly, if I was him I would hate it too. From day one his work ethic has been called into question. Then, whenever he did well, people down played his accomplishments. I would hate it
You'd hate it here? The place that made gave you millions of dollars and were confident enough to make you the first pick of the draft? I'd hate to be you guys....I know money doesn't buy happiness, but if that makes you hate something you guys don't have much to look forward to in life. All that questioning stuff would happen anywhere there are fans with opinions. If he hates that here, he will hate that anywhere. As far as I can tell there is no NFL city with unopinionated NFL media and fans.
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Sounds to me like a smart player with a smart agent just gave absolutely nothing away in either direction. That was one of the most intelligent interviews I've ever read from a football player. He said he liked it here, he complemented the team, he said he wasn't going to demand to be the highest paid. And at the same time he talked about how its a business and how he will do whats best for him and the team.

I think its impossible to read anything in to this. This was a very savvy move by a vet and nothing more in my opinion
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Sounds to me like a smart player with a smart agent just gave absolutely nothing away in either direction. That was one of the most intelligent interviews I've ever read from a football player. He said he liked it here, he complemented the team, he said he wasn't going to demand to be the highest paid. And at the same time he talked about how its a business and how he will do whats best for him and the team.

I think its impossible to read anything in to this. This was a very savvy move by a vet and nothing more in my opinion
I tend to agree...

If I did read anything out of that I would say that he is open to the possiblity of returning to the team or leaving if that's what has to happen...

But it makes no sense to give verbal felatio to the Texans.
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Sounds to me like a smart player with a smart agent just gave absolutely nothing away in either direction. That was one of the most intelligent interviews I've ever read from a football player. He said he liked it here, he complemented the team, he said he wasn't going to demand to be the highest paid. And at the same time he talked about how its a business and how he will do whats best for him and the team.

I think its impossible to read anything in to this. This was a very savvy move by a vet and nothing more in my opinion
^^^^I agree with GTex

We just have to wait and see how it plays out. Arm chair GM'ing isn't going to do any good.

IMO, Mario gave a great noncommittal interview. Attempting to read between the lines will just give you a headache, or in Gary's case a stomach ache.

I Mario and really hope we can somehow manage to keep him. Keeping my until we know otherwise.
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