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Old 02-18-2012   #1
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We do not sign Mario Williams, but instead we resign Foster, Briesel, Myers

First Round: Fletcher Cox, DE/OLB, Mississippi State, 6'4" 290
http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/wp-cont...Fletcher-1.jpg

Explosive, potential-laden DE that will help fill the void from Super Mario's departure. If the Super Bowl Champs have showed us anything, a team can never have too many raw athletic pass rushers. Can seal the edge, rush the QB & play the run. Would not start from day one like previous first round picks but is an excellent depth pick that has tremendous upside. Will be in the rotation and provide pressure in Wade's scheme. Best Player Available.
Other Pick: Melvin Ingram

Second Round: Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin, 6'3" 220
http://tommeltonscouting.files.wordp...on-picture.jpg

With the top receivers off the board early in the first, the Texans are left deciding between the likes of Sanu and Jeffery. As much as the Texans need a receiver to complement Andre "Muhammad Ali" Johnson, those two players have too many question marks to warrant a first round pick. The last time the Texans reached to fill a position of need was the KJ debacle. I say it is better to wait till the second round and pick up a polished receiver with an NFL pedigree. Wisconsin is known for blue collar players that give 110% and Toon's selfless blocking and playing through injury demonstrates this. Toon is also a big body down in the redzone and in the open field he has deceptive speed and elusiveness. Him and Watt would make a great combo of nicknames with the Milkman and the Loony Toon
Other Pick: Juron Criner

Third Round: Ryan Broyles,WR, Oklahoma 5’11” 185
http://blog.newsok.com/photo/files/2...nBroyles05.jpg

One of the most productive receivers in college football history while playing at a BIGTIME college program. We aren't talking about TY Hilton here. Ryan Broyles has managed to use crisp route running and deceptive speed to catch an astounding number of passes the last few years. Talked about as a first round pick at one point, Broyles suffered a bad knee injury that will take months to rehab and get back from So though this pick may be risky, I believe it will be a Willis Mcgahee type of payback. We take Broyles and stash him on IR for the season and then let our excellent doctors nurse him back to health. Rookie receivers tend to have a hard time getting on the field because they don't know the plays so he can take this year to rehab, rest, and learn the playbook. Also Broyles is also a good returner so we won't have to worry about closing our eyes every time Jones is back there to receive a punt.
Other Pick: TY Hilton

Fourth Round: Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State, 6-5 322
http://www.thejetsblog.com/wordpress.../01/Adcock.jpg

Getting OL depth is also an emphasis even though we will sign Briesel and Myers. We don't have any backups on our line that can step in and play without any dropoff. Adcock may not have all the physical tools, but the man works hard and I believe that embodies the spirit of our franchise. We have a group of players that fight till the end, even when nobody else gives a chance. Adcock will be developed to the point where he can step in when our linemen age in a few years and start digressing.
Other Pick: Jaymes Brooks

Fifth Round: Marquis Maze, WR/PR/KR, Alabama, 5’10" 190
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos...2K-x-large.jpg

A Jack of all Trades. He's a burner, he can catch with his hands, can be used on reverses, punt returns, screens, kick returns, deep bombs, and most importantly he is a good character guy that is a natural leader. It takes a real MAN to become that upset by letting his teammates down in the National Championship game(when he was injured) In a way he will be the Darren Sproles of our offense. We don't have a quick guy that can automatically create a mismatch, but I think Maze is that guy. He would blow the lid of our offense. Even the Packers added Randall Cobb last year, even though they had a ton of weapons.
Other Pick: Jordan White

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Welcome to the mock draft part of the board?

Just my views here

1) I dont like the idea of Cox here, but he has a certain following on the board (one of my esteemed mock partners, beerlover, is in this group). He just never impressed me when I watched Miss State. Oh, and I would be absolutely shocked if he ever played OLB. Absolutely shocked, he is more of a DE/NT than a DE/OLB.

2) Toon- I dig it. Should be a solid two. Not a gamebreaker, but a solid player for 10-12 years.

3) Love Broyles. Nice pick.

4) Addock- are you related to BL here? BL loves this guy, and he seems like a good fit to me to. Nice pick.

5) Another receiver? 3 is a hell of a lot to add, especially when we have guys like Jean and Maehl who are just waiting to strike next year. I like Maize, but I would go another direction based on what you currently have going on in your mock.

Who do you like for rounds 6 and 7?
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I feel like rounds 6 and 7 we should draft based on potential and upside. That part of the draft is a crapshoot anyways so it doesn't matter too much to me who we select because they shouldn't have a big impact on our football team.

Also in round one I really like Nick Perry from USC. He needs some technique refinement, but he has an explosive first step, something that cannot be taught. He should be able to play outside linebacker in the 3-4.
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We do not sign Mario Williams, but instead we resign Foster, Briesel, Myers

First Round: Fletcher Cox, DE/OLB, Mississippi State, 6'4" 290
http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/wp-cont...Fletcher-1.jpg

Explosive, potential-laden DE that will help fill the void from Super Mario's departure. If the Super Bowl Champs have showed us anything, a team can never have too many raw athletic pass rushers. Can seal the edge, rush the QB & play the run. Would not start from day one like previous first round picks but is an excellent depth pick that has tremendous upside. Will be in the rotation and provide pressure in Wade's scheme. Best Player Available.
Other Pick: Melvin Ingram

Second Round: Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin, 6'3" 220
http://tommeltonscouting.files.wordp...on-picture.jpg

With the top receivers off the board early in the first, the Texans are left deciding between the likes of Sanu and Jeffery. As much as the Texans need a receiver to complement Andre "Muhammad Ali" Johnson, those two players have too many question marks to warrant a first round pick. The last time the Texans reached to fill a position of need was the KJ debacle. I say it is better to wait till the second round and pick up a polished receiver with an NFL pedigree. Wisconsin is known for blue collar players that give 110% and Toon's selfless blocking and playing through injury demonstrates this. Toon is also a big body down in the redzone and in the open field he has deceptive speed and elusiveness. Him and Watt would make a great combo of nicknames with the Milkman and the Loony Toon
Other Pick: Juron Criner

Third Round: Ryan Broyles,WR, Oklahoma 5’11” 185
http://blog.newsok.com/photo/files/2...nBroyles05.jpg

One of the most productive receivers in college football history while playing at a BIGTIME college program. We aren't talking about TY Hilton here. Ryan Broyles has managed to use crisp route running and deceptive speed to catch an astounding number of passes the last few years. Talked about as a first round pick at one point, Broyles suffered a bad knee injury that will take months to rehab and get back from So though this pick may be risky, I believe it will be a Willis Mcgahee type of payback. We take Broyles and stash him on IR for the season and then let our excellent doctors nurse him back to health. Rookie receivers tend to have a hard time getting on the field because they don't know the plays so he can take this year to rehab, rest, and learn the playbook. Also Broyles is also a good returner so we won't have to worry about closing our eyes every time Jones is back there to receive a punt.
Other Pick: TY Hilton

Fourth Round: Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State, 6-5 322
http://www.thejetsblog.com/wordpress.../01/Adcock.jpg

Getting OL depth is also an emphasis even though we will sign Briesel and Myers. We don't have any backups on our line that can step in and play without any dropoff. Adcock may not have all the physical tools, but the man works hard and I believe that embodies the spirit of our franchise. We have a group of players that fight till the end, even when nobody else gives a chance. Adcock will be developed to the point where he can step in when our linemen age in a few years and start digressing.
Other Pick: Jaymes Brooks

Fifth Round: Marquis Maze, WR/PR/KR, Alabama, 5’10" 190
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos...2K-x-large.jpg

A Jack of all Trades. He's a burner, he can catch with his hands, can be used on reverses, punt returns, screens, kick returns, deep bombs, and most importantly he is a good character guy that is a natural leader. It takes a real MAN to become that upset by letting his teammates down in the National Championship game(when he was injured) In a way he will be the Darren Sproles of our offense. We don't have a quick guy that can automatically create a mismatch, but I think Maze is that guy. He would blow the lid of our offense. Even the Packers added Randall Cobb last year, even though they had a ton of weapons.
Other Pick: Jordan White

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Flattery is the greatest compliment, Fletcher Cox

Toon, Criner, Randle would all be good 2nd rd. picks. will be glued to combine to see how fast they all run. really like Joe Adams, think he is a sub 4.4 guy.

You must have just read my suggestion to rmartin65 in regards to moving Broyles to a 3rd. rd. pick. Like I said earlier, this would be Texans last shot @ him, unless they traded up in the 4th?

Adcock, once again another guy in my mock, which makes me wonder why no comment on my mock?

Maze is your burner, rather than taking Adams in 2nd? I like him but seems injury prone which is a solid reason why he lasts this late.

Have no problem taking BPA or addressing needs that fit in locker room as well on the field. Think specialists who add new dimensions as well as depth.

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Yeah that's my bad, a rookie mistake if you will. Props to martin and BL for the countless hours they've spent in researching and creating their own mocks. It was not my intention to copy what they had to say, but as an longtime and avid reader of the board, I know the caliber of input these guys have to offer. After looking at their mocks and watching some film of my own, I agreed with a few of their picks.

I honestly like Cox because a team can never have too many great lineman. Watt wasn't a popular pick, but now he's a fan favorite. I don't care who w draft as long as the player is a good character guy you want to root for. Hence, how popular Jeremy Lin has been. A humble but talented athlete with a relatable story. I feel like the Texans can do with the Michael Floyds and Alshon Jefferys. Sure they may be talented but I don't want to root for a guy that repeatedly gets arrested and caught for drugs or a lazy spoiled player that feels he is entitled to play in the NFL.

That's why I also like Toon, Criner, and Randle as they are blue solar guys who aren't afraid to mix it up and block on the outside, but at the same time, they aren't the kind of guys that take cheap shots. I am a little hesitant on Randle though because though he may have all the tools, I'm just not digging the production. I would rather have Stephen Hill and his big play upside.
Any idea if we could get Hill in the 2nd or 3rd round?

As a Baylor student, I'm big on Big 12 football, so I've seen enough of Broyles over the years. Broyles just has IT. He's a football player and thats it. I'd rather slightly reach for him in the third then risk losing him.

I love Adams and I thought about him, but I've seen lots of Arkansas football and the truth is, he reminds me of Jacoby Jones. Yeah he has big play potential but he drops too many passes and he isn't someone you can depend on in crunch time. As a third slot guy he'd be great but we're looking for that Reliable second guy that doesn't disappear like Walter and Jones do too often.
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We do not sign Mario Williams, but instead we resign Foster, Briesel, Myers

First Round: Fletcher Cox, DE/OLB, Mississippi State, 6'4" 290
http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/wp-cont...Fletcher-1.jpg

Explosive, potential-laden DE that will help fill the void from Super Mario's departure. If the Super Bowl Champs have showed us anything, a team can never have too many raw athletic pass rushers. Can seal the edge, rush the QB & play the run. Would not start from day one like previous first round picks but is an excellent depth pick that has tremendous upside. Will be in the rotation and provide pressure in Wade's scheme. Best Player Available.
Other Pick: Melvin Ingram

Second Round: Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin, 6'3" 220
http://tommeltonscouting.files.wordp...on-picture.jpg

With the top receivers off the board early in the first, the Texans are left deciding between the likes of Sanu and Jeffery. As much as the Texans need a receiver to complement Andre "Muhammad Ali" Johnson, those two players have too many question marks to warrant a first round pick. The last time the Texans reached to fill a position of need was the KJ debacle. I say it is better to wait till the second round and pick up a polished receiver with an NFL pedigree. Wisconsin is known for blue collar players that give 110% and Toon's selfless blocking and playing through injury demonstrates this. Toon is also a big body down in the redzone and in the open field he has deceptive speed and elusiveness. Him and Watt would make a great combo of nicknames with the Milkman and the Loony Toon
Other Pick: Juron Criner

Third Round: Ryan Broyles,WR, Oklahoma 5’11” 185
http://blog.newsok.com/photo/files/2...nBroyles05.jpg

One of the most productive receivers in college football history while playing at a BIGTIME college program. We aren't talking about TY Hilton here. Ryan Broyles has managed to use crisp route running and deceptive speed to catch an astounding number of passes the last few years. Talked about as a first round pick at one point, Broyles suffered a bad knee injury that will take months to rehab and get back from So though this pick may be risky, I believe it will be a Willis Mcgahee type of payback. We take Broyles and stash him on IR for the season and then let our excellent doctors nurse him back to health. Rookie receivers tend to have a hard time getting on the field because they don't know the plays so he can take this year to rehab, rest, and learn the playbook. Also Broyles is also a good returner so we won't have to worry about closing our eyes every time Jones is back there to receive a punt.
Other Pick: TY Hilton

Fourth Round: Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State, 6-5 322
http://www.thejetsblog.com/wordpress.../01/Adcock.jpg

Getting OL depth is also an emphasis even though we will sign Briesel and Myers. We don't have any backups on our line that can step in and play without any dropoff. Adcock may not have all the physical tools, but the man works hard and I believe that embodies the spirit of our franchise. We have a group of players that fight till the end, even when nobody else gives a chance. Adcock will be developed to the point where he can step in when our linemen age in a few years and start digressing.
Other Pick: Jaymes Brooks

Fifth Round: Marquis Maze, WR/PR/KR, Alabama, 5’10" 190
http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos...2K-x-large.jpg

A Jack of all Trades. He's a burner, he can catch with his hands, can be used on reverses, punt returns, screens, kick returns, deep bombs, and most importantly he is a good character guy that is a natural leader. It takes a real MAN to become that upset by letting his teammates down in the National Championship game(when he was injured) In a way he will be the Darren Sproles of our offense. We don't have a quick guy that can automatically create a mismatch, but I think Maze is that guy. He would blow the lid of our offense. Even the Packers added Randall Cobb last year, even though they had a ton of weapons.
Other Pick: Jordan White

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First welcome to the board and to mock draft forum.

1. Cox will be there but I like Ingram better but he won't be there. I see Cox more as a DE than OLB.

2, Toon? I watched to much of him and was disappointed. Seemed to hit or miss to me. I'd go Dwight Jones. Criner over Toon.

3. Broyles should be great & he could go high as 3rd but needs to heal quickly. Good pick.
4. Adcock is a very sound selection.

5. Maze would be ok but as I am a fan of White that would be my selection.

Note as I expect Mario, Briesel, Myers to be re-signed my mock will look different. Appreciate your effort.
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1. Cox will be there but I like Ingram better but he won't be there. I see Cox more as a DE than OLB.
Cox could play the 3 or 5 technique. He's not an OLB at all. Still, a value pick at that point in the draft.

I think the Texans should take 2 WRs from this deep receiver draft. 3 WRs seems over the top.
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