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Old 02-20-2012   #321
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LMAO @ Schaub being a slacker!!
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schaub just isnt a winner, hes scared, when the game gets tough he tucks his tail, this doesnt mean he sucks, hes a solid qb, he'll put up numbers all day but those numbers dont mean anything in the grand scheme when you fail in the most crucial moments..
There have been many crucial moments where Schaub played great in the past in 4th quarters. Hell, he made a living off of it the season before last season and arguably the season before that. It's not his fault that his team's defense was also making a living at giving points up in the 4th quarters. Schaub just lost a lot of those games where he put up a lot of points in 4th quarters, so it seems like he hasn't been clutch to some. I'll admit that he's failed quite a few times as well at the end of games and **** the bed, but all QB's do as well. Only the elites win in the clutch the majority of the time. Schaub has shown plenty of times that he could put up points in 4th quarters though.

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i dont understand why so many of you guys here continue to expect great things from schaub, what youve seen is what youll get.. youre kidding yourselves if you think he takes that career PPG into the playoffs and just rolls over teams.. games will get tough, you need a qb that can put a team on his back, schaub isnt capable of this.
Well he definitely has over anyone else that we got. Who is out there on the current market would be a better fit to take us further?? I'd love to hear a decent suggestion. With our current defense, Schaub is more than capable.

like ck said, just watch the guy play, save your stats, stats never tell the whole story..

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i dont have faith in this guy, all i have is hope, hope that he'll prove me wrong... just dont see it..
Then Yates should have scared you ****less if that's the case.
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Well he definitely has over anyone else that we got. Who is out there on the current market would be a better fit to take us further?? I'd love to hear a decent suggestion. With our current defense, Schaub is more than capable.

like ck said, just watch the guy play, save your stats, stats never tell the whole story.
On the market I would say maybe the kid in GB but we cant afford him. I have never said Matt isnt "our" best QB, the debate is if he is elite, and he isnt even close. Our offense does not need an elite QB to win. That is why I cant see us paying to extend someone like Schaub, when he can command more to teams that need a QB as the focal point, and will look at his stats and drool. Walter, Johnson, Daniels, etc have given Matt his meal ticket by being able to adjust. Is he our best? Sure. Do we need him to win? My opinion is no. I think if Yates got a full camp and was the starter he would do just fine. Ravens won it all with Dilfer, and I will say that right now Yates is better than Dilfer.
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On the market I would say maybe the kid in GB but we cant afford him.
So after one game in week 17 against one of the worst defenses in the entire league where Flynn put up a bunch of points, we should consider him over Schaub? I don't think so.

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Do we need him to win? My opinion is no.
Well your opinion was proven wrong just this last season, because we didn't win without him and many thought we would have gone further had we had him. But we did "need" better than what we had, and Schaub was unquestionably much better.


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I think if Yates got a full camp and was the starter he would do just fine. Ravens won it all with Dilfer, and I will say that right now Yates is better than Dilfer.
Bad example, because that's not a common thing where a defense plays like that awsome. The Ravens didn't even allow over 30 points for the entire post season or something like that when they won. They could have literally ran the ball on ever down and won the SB practically. They were the best defense of all time. Trying to imply a strategy where you're trying to win with just anyone at QB is never a good one and that's what the Texans had to deal with when they had Yates in there last season and it showed.

With Yates you get a game manager that won't put up a lot of points.

With Scahub you get a guy who has put up a lot of points for several seasons now. Not even a comparison really.
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first in last out means nothing, just more stuff for schaub apologist to cling to.. he spends the whole day practicing? then why does he still make the same mistakes he was making years ago? why do all of our kickers have a better builds than our pudgy quarterback? practice doesnt make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect... i find it hard to believe there is a harder worker on this team than cushing.. no days off for brian, he lives in the weight room, eats properly, and does any and everything possible to keep his body in prime shape for this sport..
You must have had elite moron training in some Glenn Beck para-dumbass camp to come with this drivel. Well done.
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I dont think I have ever heard that even suggested. Maybe I am not the one making stuff up.
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Not denying it may be the case, just have never heard of it.
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Link please.
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When the NFL lockout began in March, Texans quarterback Matt Schaub sent an email to his teammates encouraging them to participate in player-only workouts during the offseason.
Some defensive players began working out at the Plex facility in Stafford. The offensive players worked out at Rice, where Schaub tried to stick to the same schedule the Texans would have used if there wasn't a lockout, including 14 organized team activities and a three-day minicamp this week.
Some defensive players joined the offense for the OTAs and minicamp.
"We're doing more detailed work as a group and running through the same type of practice plan that we'd be doing at Reliant," Schaub said about the minicamp. "We're also going to work on some situational football that helps us in crucial points in the game — like the two-minute drill, the red zone, etc."
Organizing and running team workouts when none of them were officially under contract - and therefore not covered by team insurance - should tell you something about his work ethic and leadership. If this doesn't help you understand that then you're actively trying to NOT get it.

I've been among those who have complained about Schaub's lack of mobility and b!tched about his less-than-stellar arm strength. But his work ethic, ability to read defenses, be a student of the game, and to effectively run this offense has never been a question in my mind.
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Organizing and running team workouts when none of them were officially under contract - and therefore not covered by team insurance - should tell you something about his work ethic and leadership. If this doesn't help you understand that then you're actively trying to NOT get it.

I've been among those who have complained about Schaub's lack of mobility and b!tched about his less-than-stellar arm strength. But his work ethic, ability to read defenses, be a student of the game, and to effectively run this offense has never been a question in my mind.
Schaub "organized" these workouts several weeks after Brees and Eli were getting national recognition for getting their teams together. Doesnt impress me.
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HA!! Seconded.

Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
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Organizing and running team workouts when none of them were officially under contract - and therefore not covered by team insurance - should tell you something about his work ethic and leadership. If this doesn't help you understand that then you're actively trying to NOT get it.

I've been among those who have complained about Schaub's lack of mobility and b!tched about his less-than-stellar arm strength. But his work ethic, ability to read defenses, be a student of the game, and to effectively run this offense has never been a question in my mind.
Don't even waste the effort, man. Dude has his mind made up. You can't change someone's opinion when they're hell-bent on trolling.
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Schaub "organized" these workouts several weeks after Brees and Eli were getting national recognition for getting their teams together. Doesnt impress me.
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Don't even waste the effort, man. Dude has his mind made up. You can't change someone's opinion when they're hell-bent on trolling.
Why does it make someone a troll just because they have a different viewpoint than you do? Maybe you should learn the definition of a word before attempting to use it.
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ints-to-tulane

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2..._giants_o.html

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Why does it make someone a troll just because they have a different viewpoint than you do? Maybe you should learn the definition of a word before attempting to use it.



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when did your account get suspended from the other texans mb?
What does that matter? That board suspends folks based on pure bias. The point of a message board is to encourage conversation. Conversation can sometimes lead to debate. If you debate the mods on that board you are booted. The current lead mod there has said worse things, and thrown out more personal attacks, and overall been a jerk to more folks than I ever did. He got rewarded with being appointed a mod. Go figure.
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What does that matter? That board suspends folks based on pure bias. The point of a message board is to encourage conversation. Conversation can sometimes lead to debate. If you debate the mods on that board you are booted. The current lead mod there has said worse things, and thrown out more personal attacks, and overall been a jerk to more folks than I ever did. He got rewarded with being appointed a mod. Go figure.



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1. the sarcasm smile was obviously lost on you. just showing what each thread would look like if everybody trolled like you do

2. as you did throw up those links, i only see eli, brees and sanchez organise get national recognition for their togethers in may. schaub organised OTA's in march and a mini camp later. last time i checked, march was before may.... kinda ruins your whole 'schaub only did it to get publicity/because every other qb was' angle doesnt it?

3. let this thread die. btw have you checked out the http://boards.houstontexans.com/ ? just a great forum with lots of friendly posters
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1. the sarcasm smile was obviously lost on you. just showing what each thread would look like if everybody trolled like you do

2. as you did throw up those links, i only see eli, brees and sanchez organise get national recognition for their togethers in may. schaub organised OTA's in march and a mini camp later. last time i checked, march was before may.... kinda ruins your whole 'schaub only did it to get publicity/because every other qb was' angle doesnt it?

3. let this thread die. btw have you checked out the http://boards.houstontexans.com/ ? just a great forum with lots of friendly posters



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lol.... so much for that attempt
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What does that matter? That board suspends folks based on pure bias. The point of a message board is to encourage conversation. Conversation can sometimes lead to debate. If you debate the mods on that board you are booted. The current lead mod there has said worse things, and thrown out more personal attacks, and overall been a jerk to more folks than I ever did. He got rewarded with being appointed a mod. Go figure.
Careful there hotrod, I believe a couple of the Mods over there work this MB too. Then again, let them bridges burn....
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