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Old 02-16-2012   #261
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Not sure, but it would behoove the Texans to think seriously about getting another QB here (other than Manning).

Duce Staley, Errict Rhett and Warrick Dunn never really made it back from the injury. Granted, they were all running backs, but with the amount of rollouts this offense utilizes - you never know.
Ty Law (Patriots secondary player) and Glenn Earl (former Texan secondary player) also suffered this injury and couldn't return and maintain an NFL career.

It's not encouraging to look at the historical record of NFL players who have had this injury and attempted a return.

Matt Schaub is facing an uphill battle. Albert Haynesworth should be flown to Siberia with 3 days of rations and one change of clothes.
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So we're fighting about who is more/less injured? The immobile guy with the broken neck or the immobile guy with the broken foot?
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If Matt Schaub is a Texan after the trade deadline then we will all know that last year was a fluke and we have no chance of winning with this front office and coaching staff. Matt is barely top 20 in the league, and we have other needs. QB in our system can be a card-board cutout as long as that piece of paper can get Foster and Tate the ball. Sign a FA, draft a good prospect, or let Yates carry it for now, but dont waste money on Matt. Skins need a QB and its the same system. Send Barbi packing.
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If Matt Schaub is a Texan after the trade deadline then we will all know that last year was a fluke and we have no chance of winning with this front office and coaching staff.
You probably need to add this to your post.
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If Matt Schaub is a Texan after the trade deadline then we will all know that last year was a fluke and we have no chance of winning with this front office and coaching staff. Matt is barely top 20 in the league, and we have other needs. QB in our system can be a card-board cutout as long as that piece of paper can get Foster and Tate the ball. Sign a FA, draft a good prospect, or let Yates carry it for now, but dont waste money on Matt. Skins need a QB and its the same system. Send Barbi packing.
Some people.....Matt Schaub has been pretty solid and was the probowl MVP to boot but he got hurt so we call him barbi now...gtfo. I see why your rep power is 0 lol.
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No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
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Your talking out your arse.
Just calling it how I see it. If you actually watch Matt play the game, he simply isnt that good of a QB.
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Just calling it how I see it. If you actually watch Matt play the game, he simply isnt that good of a QB.
after Peyton, Brady, Brews, Ben, and Rogers who is better? Schaub is perfect for the Texans system. Who do you want to trade him for, Vick! Gabbert? Grossman? Give me another NFL QB that you would trade straight up for him?
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Just calling it how I see it. If you actually watch Matt play the game, he simply isnt that good of a QB.
Just can't agree. You said "no stats" but they're inherently intertwined, no? Two back to back 4000+ yds passing. QBs that "simply isn't that good" don't win Pro Bowl MVPs. (I know, it's JUST the pro bowl so save your ink)

Granted, that was all before he was Haynesworthed and with all the data available on Pro players coming back from this injury, as severe as Matt's, doesn't look good. That being the case, is he really marketable?

I want to see him back to form in the worst way but everything I've read/seen/heard discussed does not look promising. I would not be surprised if he's already taken his last snap under center.

I hope that not the case, but I believe management will do their best to have a valid plan B in place, what ever that my be. My guess, and only a guess, is to have TJ as ready to go as possible by taking all the snaps with the ones vs. the ones and hope he has a breakout year and hope all his rookie mistakes are behind him. That and draft another QB.

The Texans are in a tough spot at the QB position. I do not envy the position management is in.
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Just calling it how I see it. If you actually watch Matt play the game, he simply isnt that good of a QB.
Glasses. I suggest glasses.

Matt was a Top 6 QB in 2009/2010 and was Top 10 for what he did in 2011.

Maybe tri-focals so you don't miss so much.
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Just wait until they win a Super Bowl with Schaub then we'll see.
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No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
Has no passion for the game? See you lose credibility when you just make crap up. Schaub is renowned as the hardest worker on the team.

And every QB has WR's covering their ass - Eli Manning in the SB with an on the side of the helmet catch, Peyton with Marvin Harrison making diving catches, etc. You don't want stats fine but you don't produce as he has not being accurate especially since according to many people he only has one WR worth starting.
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schaub just isnt a winner, hes scared, when the game gets tough he tucks his tail, this doesnt mean he sucks, hes a solid qb, he'll put up numbers all day but those numbers dont mean anything in the grand scheme when you fail in the most crucial moments..

i dont understand why so many of you guys here continue to expect great things from schaub, what youve seen is what youll get.. youre kidding yourselves if you think he takes that career PPG into the playoffs and just rolls over teams.. games will get tough, you need a qb that can put a team on his back, schaub isnt capable of this..

like ck said, just watch the guy play, save your stats, stats never tell the whole story..

i dont have faith in this guy, all i have is hope, hope that he'll prove me wrong... just dont see it..
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No thanks.

Schaub has only had two good years in eight NFL seasons. He is injury prone, has a weak arm, is not accuarate (keep your stats, his receivers cover his ass constantly), not mobile, and has no passion for the game. Its like watching Eeyore playing QB. Trade him and get something for him.
You all know I like Matt Schaub... ok, you all know I wouldn't be upset if we move on from the Matt Schaub era. Yes he's been to the pro-bowl, yes he can put up stats in this system.

But this team is ready for a dynamo at the QB position. Someone who can make things happen, not someone who simply takes what the defense gives him.

I will agree, that Schaub is better than QBs that have won super-bowls...... Dilfer, Johnson. But when you have to qualify a statement like that with players you know are sub-par, that should tell you something.

In the past, this team was comparable to Detroit, the pre-super-bowl Cardinals & Bucs...... the bottom of the league. I'm not saying this team won't get us to a Super Bowl with Matt Schaub, but I'm highly doubtful that Schaub can get us there or win it.

We need a dynamo.
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after Peyton, Brady, Brews, Ben, and Rogers who is better? Schaub is perfect for the Texans system. Who do you want to trade him for, Vick! Gabbert? Grossman? Give me another NFL QB that you would trade straight up for him?
Well, here`s my list:

E. Manning
P. Rivers
C. Newton
A. Dalton
M. Ryan
M. Stafford
J. Flacco

I really like Schaub - but his injuries are a big concern. He is a better than average QB that couldn`t show how he performs in the playoffs yet and has had some big injuries. Its kinda like the Rockets the last years - if Yao and TMac can stay healthy, we should be ok... we all know how that turned out.

I am not ready to give up on Schaub - go into next season with him as the starters and let TJ learn something on the bench. But if he can`T get healthy or gets another big injury, it might be time to look for a big time QB.
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i dont have faith in this guy, all i have is hope, hope that he'll prove me wrong... just dont see it..
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Has no passion for the game? See you lose credibility when you just make crap up. Schaub is renowned as the hardest worker on the team.

But since he's not screaming and yelling at everybody like Brady or Manning he has no passion and is not a leader.
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