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Old 02-13-2012   #21
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Why not? Low risk high reward ....
Well . . . how about "I play when I want to"?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

1. runs poor routes
2. doesn't block

Doesn't fit!
He had one bad year and is entire career is a joke? You don't get 15K receiving yards 15.6 yards per catch and 153 TD's by running bad routes.

Moss is a drastic upgrade over everyone in our receiving core except for AJ.

Now you have Moss and you draft a rookie in the 1st. AJ/Moss/1st round rookie? Hell yeah!
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Honestly, yes...but I worry about his cross route skills and his sometimes temper tantrums.

One guy I'd love to have is Heinz Ward, sure handed and one hell of a blocker.
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No. He's 35. Coming off of an entire year away from football. He's not faster now. He's just trying to get a paycheck.
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Honestly, yes...but I worry about his cross route skills and his sometimes temper tantrums.

One guy I'd love to have is Heinz Ward, sure handed and one hell of a blocker.
Hines Ward can't move anymore. He runs like he's wearing concrete shoes. It's the reason why when he offered to restructure his contract the Steelers still said "thanks, but no thanks". He REALLY fell off last season (8.3 ypc)

Kevin Walter is a non athletic, sure handed guy, who can block his rear off... So Ward wouldn't bring anything that we don't already have. At least Walter brings size to the table, so he has that going for him.
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He had one bad year and is entire career is a joke? You don't get 15K receiving yards 15.6 yards per catch and 153 TD's by running bad routes.

Moss is a drastic upgrade over everyone in our receiving core except for AJ.

Now you have Moss and you draft a rookie in the 1st. AJ/Moss/1st round rookie? Hell yeah!
Moss has never been known for his route running skills, so that's a legitimate criticism of his game. It's a well known criticism also. Maybe a better description of his route running would be to say he runs lazy routes.. and he does. He also doesn't even try to participate in the running game and offers up negative effort while run blocking, so the previous poster was correct. He doesn't fit the system here. If you don't run block, you don't get on the field in Kubiak's offense.

In his prime, the guy was the best deep threat option in the history of the league though. Reason for all of the yards, high ypc stats, and TDs.
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Honestly, yes...but I worry about his cross route skills and his sometimes temper tantrums.

One guy I'd love to have is Heinz Ward, sure handed and one hell of a blocker.
I've thought that as well but as much as he's wanting/trying to hang in Pittsburgh do you think he'd sign with another team, or just retire?
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No. He's 35. Coming off of an entire year away from football. He's not faster now. He's just trying to get a paycheck.
Hey! Don't say about age! I am over 50 and I can still able to walk.
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I'd bring him in and work him out. Just like we brought in that parade of QBs when Schaub and Leinart went down. If he doesn't pass muster, what have you lost? If he's got an, "I'm gonna show everyone I'm not finished yet" attitude AND he signs a vet minimum plus incentives contract... why not?

Now that doesn't stop me from drafting an heir to A.J. in the first 2-3 rounds because Moss would only be viable for a couple of years at most and A.J. maybe 3-5 more great-to-good seasons in him.

As far as that "cancer" thing, Tom Brady vouched for him ...even after he got cut from the Pats, Brady went on record saying he'd love to have him back. If he's good enough for Tom B....
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Not only a no, but a **** no.
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i'd rather have TO no matter what anyone says he gives 100 and 10 % every game

U can deny the numbers he put up in cincy were pretty good
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I would take a look at him. I'm sure most people thought Plaxico was done too.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

1. runs poor routes
2. doesn't block

Doesn't fit!
And he quits on plays. Walks off the field before the game is over, is a locker room cancer.

Just because he's an all world talent doesn't excuse the fact he's a jackass. A jackass who's getting older and slower by the minute.
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Default Re: Would you take Randy Moss to help out A.J.?

I'm still torn on this one. He would make a great addition in that he has the potential to take a lot of the double teams off A.J. He does still have some talent, and if the price was right we'd have back up,(GOD FORBID), something happen again this year like happened last year to Dre.

My biggest concern is a quote of his that I can't get out of my mind from several years ago when he was with, I believe, the Vikings in which he said...."I play hard when I want to play hard."

That has stuck with me for several years as being a self centered little debutante like the players on that team from southern Oklahoma.
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So he runs bad routes...so does Jacoby.
Let's talk about what he can do though....he can catch (the coolest one handed grab in the back of the endzone coming off about an 80 yard bomb from Tom Brady)......Jacoby can't do that.

He's still a redzone threat....we didn't do to well in the Red Zone this year.
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So he runs bad routes...so does Jacoby.
Let's talk about what he can do though....he can catch (the coolest one handed grab in the back of the endzone coming off about an 80 yard bomb from Tom Brady)......Jacoby can't do that.

He's still a redzone threat....we didn't do to well in the Red Zone this year.
Okay sure. He quits on plays. He can act like a spoiled brat. Why would you want someone out there who you can trust to give a 100% effort.
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Okay sure. He quits on plays. He can act like a spoiled brat. Why would you want someone out there who you can trust to give a 100% effort.
Do you know why he was released in New England? I'm seriously asking. I don't know if it was because of his potential contract in the upcoming season or not.
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