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Old 02-04-2012   #41
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I think our defense played better in part to having better depth. That depth was also part of our special teams.

The "mistakes" I'm referring to, has more to do with the gunners running free down the field. Not excusing Jacoby from his play-off blunder, but why was there no one between Jimmy Smith & Jacoby.
Absolutely! Should have heard me screaming "BLOCK SOMEONE DAMMIT!" That and eliminating penalties for "blocking in the back" are things Marciano can fix.
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Outside of a luck KR return by the Ravens where 9 people missed tackles, who gets big returns vs. our ST? You can only tell a player so much before he takes it upon himself and does dumb ****.

This. All of the weaknesses in our special teams are in areas where an individual has to come through and didn't (or at least didn't on a regular basis).

In areas where you need a bunch of players all on the same page like kickoff returns and coverage we appear to me to be very well coached.

Marciano can't coach the dumbass out of Jacoby Jones just like nobody could coach David Anderson up to a 4.2 40 time or how nobody could coach David Carr into having an internal clock or pocket awareness. Rackers is streaky and always has been. That's not special teams coaching, that's Rackers.

Nah, leave Joe Marciano right where he is. That's a part of our team that has always been consistent and mostly successful.
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Nah, leave Joe Marciano right where he is. That's a part of our team that has always been consistent and mostly successful.
Again, I think this is very short-sighted. I love every thing Texans & will argue, most times, in favor of those Texans. But this is different.

This team is usually pretty good on penalties... false starts, holding, off-sides..... unsportman... our penalties are usually far & in between. But special teams the last two years, I would wager have been the most penalized "phase" on our team. I remember one game, we kicked to the other team & still got called for a block in the back.... how do you do that?

I'm not looking to get rid of Coach Joe, that's not my style. But to ignore a problem..... say it isn't there...


Ok, maybe I have done that before
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Again, I think this is very short-sighted. I love every thing Texans & will argue, most times, in favor of those Texans. But this is different.

This team is usually pretty good on penalties... false starts, holding, off-sides..... unsportman... our penalties are usually far & in between. But special teams the last two years, I would wager have been the most penalized "phase" on our team. I remember one game, we kicked to the other team & still got called for a block in the back.... how do you do that?

I'm not looking to get rid of Coach Joe, that's not my style. But to ignore a problem..... say it isn't there...


Ok, maybe I have done that before
That would seem to go along with who is making the penalties & if it is 2 year+ vets you have a point. If not and it is newer guys you don't, imo.
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[/b]Absolutely! Should have heard me screaming "BLOCK SOMEONE DAMMIT!" That and eliminating penalties for "blocking in the back" are things Marciano can fix.
Why hasn't that been done then?

By Joe or anyone else?

This season past, seems like every punt return had that flag.

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I haven't been a real big fan of our special teams lately either - although this year they were a bit better than 2010. Wouldn't have minded a coaching change, but I would imagine that if it was going to happen, it would've happened by now, so C'est la vie.

My position hasn't been based on penalties, although I do relate to the frustration when they occur. However, like so many other things related to being a fan, most folks (including me) are simply too close to the situation to form an accurate opinion based on simply watching games. In both # of penalties and penalty yardage, the 2011 Texans Special teams were firmly entrenched in the middle of the NFL pack. Not great by any stretch, but far from the worst. With 1 being the most (ie: worst) and 32 being the fewest, the 2011 Texans ranked 16th in number of penalties (pretty much as middle of the pack as you can get) at exactly one ST penalty per game, and 19th (just slightly better than average) in yards penalized.

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Why hasn't that been done then?

By Joe or anyone else?

This season past, seems like every punt return had that flag.

This line for 4 paragraphs.
23 it is the most frustrating penalty for me as most of them do not seem to benefit the ball carrier in any way. The player just goes stupid.
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You're talking fumbles lost. I'm talking fumbles.

Are you saying the Texans are better on ST's since the 3/4 man wedge was outlawed by King Rodger.

The Texans are middle of the pack on ST's and that's not good enough to win a SB. IMHO

This doesn't even take into account the 2009 K.Brown fiasco/ Jacksonville fake punt fiasco under coach Joes tuteledge. (SP?)
i'm sorry but in todays NFL ST dont win Super Bowls. Rookie QBs not throwing 3 picks and our return man not making bone headed moves helps. Now is Jacobys terrible decesion to try to field the punt Joes fault ? I dont think so. JM will be here next season, why because of one bone headed play that our PR man makes do people think its time to replace a coach.
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