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Im telling you now: Peyton wants hardware at this point. He will sign with a contending team for minimal base salary. I honestly believe when he gets his official release HE will contact teams not the other way around. I think he will inquire about Schaubs health and recovery.
Especially considering his little brother or his arch-rival will be getting one more ring tonight.
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Im telling you now: Peyton wants hardware at this point. He will sign with a contending team for minimal base salary. I honestly believe when he gets his official release HE will contact teams not the other way around. I think he will inquire about Schaubs health and recovery.
cmon man, he's not going to have to do that, teams who feel they are close will be jumping at the chance to sign him. i watched a little espn this morning & they interviewed him...he said he be willing to play primarily on an incentive based contract...if he's willing to do that, he'll have no problems recieving offers from the likes of the jets, broncos & redskins.
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cmon man, he's not going to have to do that, teams who feel they are close will be jumping at the chance to sign him. i watched a little espn this morning & they interviewed him...he said he be willing to play primarily on an incentive based contract...if he's willing to do that, he'll have no problems recieving offers from the likes of the jets, broncos & redskins.
Or just about any other team in the league without a top 5 QB. That's the whole point of saying he'll play for a smaller contract.
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Im telling you now: Peyton wants hardware at this point. He will sign with a contending team for minimal base salary. I honestly believe when he gets his official release HE will contact teams not the other way around. I think he will inquire about Schaubs health and recovery.
No way Manning gets released. The Colts want to control were he goes and they would probably take a 7th rounder from Tampa Bay before letting him go off and play for an AFC South rival.

And once he does get released doesn't he have to clear waivers first?
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No way Manning gets released. The Colts want to control were he goes and they would probably take a 7th rounder from Tampa Bay before letting him go off and play for an AFC South rival.

And once he does get released doesn't he have to clear waivers first?
And what if no one bites? The Colts are stuck with a QB issue that costs them 25 million against the cap

Manning holds ALL the cards in that scenario.
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cmon man, he's not going to have to do that, teams who feel they are close will be jumping at the chance to sign him. i watched a little espn this morning & they interviewed him...he said he be willing to play primarily on an incentive based contract...if he's willing to do that, he'll have no problems recieving offers from the likes of the jets, broncos & redskins.
Yeah but those teams are not ANYWHERE near Superbowl caliber.

Dolphins, Jets, redskins......lol He will make the decision and go where HE wants to. Bottom Line.
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And what if no one bites? The Colts are stuck with a QB issue that costs them 25 million against the cap

Manning holds ALL the cards in that scenario.
I think some team out there would gladly pony up a 7 for Manning. Even if somebody doesn't he would have to clear waivers and what team would let Manning slip through that crack?

All I am saying is I would be shocked if Manning hits the open market. Remember how TB picked up Jake Plummer off waivers so Jake just retired? Something like that could happen to Manning. The Dolphins pick him up so he calls it a day.
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Jets sign Manning and trade Sanchez I call it..
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Jets sign Manning and trade Sanchez I call it..
Who would waist a draft pick on Sanchez?

I will give the Jets a half eaten hot dog and the rights to Ron Dane for Mark Sanchez.

I also think if the Colts do trade Manning he will be traded out of the AFC and traded to a team the Colts do not play this year.
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And once he does get released doesn't he have to clear waivers first?
On the BS report Schefter said he can sign the minute after he is cut
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Who would waist a draft pick on Sanchez?

I will give the Jets a half eaten hot dog and the rights to Ron Dane for Mark Sanchez.

I also think if the Colts do trade Manning he will be traded out of the AFC and traded to a team the Colts do not play this year.
I said cut Manning not trade him which means he would be free to sign on his own.
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On the BS report Schefter said he can sign the minute after he is cut
Anyone signing Manning before a physical is gambling.....
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Considering our offseason has already started its going to be nothing but blah blah blah. Did you expect game film break down?
Something better than this drivel. I would have jettisoned this to the nfl forum, but I can't on this tablet. Really, this makes our fanbase look as stupid as Solomon.
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No way Manning gets released. The Colts want to control were he goes and they would probably take a 7th rounder from Tampa Bay before letting him go off and play for an AFC South rival.

And once he does get released doesn't he have to clear waivers first?
Negative. He is an expiring contract, he doesn't have to clear waivers. Had he been under contract then he would have to clear waivers. In this case he is free to sign wherever he wishes.
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now that Eli has more rings, Peyton will be looking for the surest thing to match him

I predict he will reach out to the Texans
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Negative. He is an expiring contract, he doesn't have to clear waivers. Had he been under contract then he would have to clear waivers. In this case he is free to sign wherever he wishes.
Then I am confused because I thought that Manning just inked a 5 year $90 million dollar contract. He still has another 4 years left.
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and begin the Peyton Watch its Off season
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Then I am confused because I thought that Manning just inked a 5 year $90 million dollar contract. He still has another 4 years left.
He did just sign a contract, and would therefore not be an expiring contract. The reason he wouldn't have to go through waivers is because he is a vested player (four or more years of service), and vested players waived after February 1 and before the trade deadline don't go through the waiver process - they become UFA's immediately.

The reason this it is highly unlikely that he will be traded is because Peyton has a $28 Million roster bonus due March 8th. This is prior to the date that NFL teams can trade players. If the Colts wait to trade him, they'll have to pay the $28 Million bonus, then eat that entire amount as part of the 2012 cap when they trade him. If they pay the bonus and keep him, it likely counts $7 Million against the cap in the upcoming year.

It's possible that Peyton could agree to restructure to make himself more tradeable, but since that could cost him money, and would cost him control, it's probably not very likely.
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Something better than this drivel. I would have jettisoned this to the nfl forum, but I can't on this tablet. Really, this makes our fanbase look as stupid as Solomon.
Don't ever listen to any sports radio station in Houston ever then if you can't stand Hostonians and Houston fans making themselves look like idiots.

This meme of "Manning to the Texans" is popping up a lot on all the dials (Well, I don't listen to 97.5 as often as I like) and more than enough asinine phone calls are about how ditching Schaub for Manning is totally worth it because Super Bowl here we come.

I don't believe the Texans need to see themselves in a "win now" sort of mode where you are ready to mortgage your future for the present. If the brain trust thinks we need a QB, I don't see a big problem with taking a QB you like in the draft and just have him learn behind Yates for the last year of Schaub's contract.

I don't know if cutting Schaub before March 1st would draw dead money on to the cap, but I don't think Manning is going to play unless some team pays him quite a bit of money. He still hasn't been released by the Colts, so I think all of this conversation on the airwaves, on this forum, or anywhere else is strictly premature and a gigantic waste of time. Couple that with the fact that Peyton Manning and Gary Kubiak might not be a "fit". How are you going to pay money to Peyton Manning while he plays for a coach who obviously does not give his QB's much leeway to change stuff right before the ball is snapped?
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