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Old 01-30-2012   #1
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Default Solomon: If Manning on market, Texans should be first in line

Solomon wrote some articles I liked this year. This is not one of them.

I would like to put this issue to rest before it catches on. Solomon's arguments are basically that Schaub's recovery is unreliable, Manning is more durable than Schaub, Manning is Manning, and you have to pony up the contract for Manning if you're serious about winning a championship.

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Once Manning is let go he should be as interested in the Texans as they would be in him. There might not be a better fit for him in the NFL.

The Texans possess an experienced offense with a strong line and some top-notch weapons as well as a stingy defense. The franchise should hold a dominant position in a weak division for the next couple of seasons, a point that theoretically should translate to a sure playoff berth and an easier path to the Super Bowl than most other potential suitors.

With Schaub missing the final eight games because of foot surgery, the Texans would be remiss if they didn’t try to woo Manning.

Manning, who threw for a career-best 4,700 yards in 2010 and for more than 4,000 in his five previous seasons (and in 11 of his 13 years in the league), turns 36 in March. Don’t get too caught up in the fact he missed last season. Those were the first games he had missed in his career.

Schaub, who will be 31 this summer, has missed 16 starts in 80 games as a Texan. Manning has missed 16 starts in 224 games. So which one is more of an injury risk?

A Texans official said Friday the team is confident and all early indications are that Schaub will be 100 percent by the start of next season. There is no guarantee of that.

He is coming off Lisfranc surgery on his foot, an injury from which some players never recover. Three years after that surgery forced him to miss a Patriots Super Bowl victory, Ty Law said he wasn’t 100 percent. Glenn Earl started every game at safety for the Texans in 2006, but he suffered that injury in an exhibition game the next season and never again played in the NFL.
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Let's dismiss the obvious first: Matt Schaub's job does not demand nimble maneuvering or power cleaning a DE. But that's a minor argument. The root argument against Solomon's assertion comes down to these three facts:

1) The Texans are not going to enter a bidding war they are certain to lose due to cap restrictions, and in the process demoralize their entrenched starter.
2) Manning is an on-the-field general who does not fit the Texans' West Coast style of executing the exact play called by the OC or Kubiak. Manning improvs, the Texans stick to the script.
3) Schaub is 31. Manning is 36.

Solomon has let his emotions get in the way of analysis here. That hasn't been an entirely bad tendency this year, since it has actually inspired some good articles where he played the role of optimistic, Texans flag waving opinion writer. The fanbase benefits from that, and I thought it was a fitting and distinctive role for him. But in this case, he wrote something that is not even in the same zip code as logic.
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Solomon never ceases to amaze me!!

PLEASE Queen Solomon, put the pipe down.

A) Manning wants to call ALL the plays on the field.

B) Kubiak wouldn't give up the reigns to his offense.

C) No one knows the real status of Manning's neck.

D) They call Pay-me Manning for a reason.
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Solomon never ceases to amaze me!!

PLEASE Queen Solomon, put the pipe down.

A) Manning wants to call ALL the plays on the field.

B) Kubiak wouldn't give up the reigns to his offense.


C) No one knows the real status of Manning's neck.

D) They call Pay-me Manning for a reason.
Those reasons alone would make Manning a coach-killer like Favre was in his latter years. And for what, three years of service?
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Hit the road Jack & don't you come back no moe!!

8 pages of comments....... I think they have what they want.

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D) They call Pay-me-a-ton Manning for a reason.
fixed it for ya

also a little bit of discussion about this subject starting at post 76
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...t=89274&page=4
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Default Re: Solomon: If Manning on market, Texans should be first in line

I like Schaub...I'd be fine w Manning coming in.
Manning for Mario? (Cap Wise)
What do we lose on Offense besides that bootleg pass?
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Sheer lunacy. Cap-wise, team chemistry-wise, any other-wise. We can either go with the players that got us here or bring in fix-a-flat's that will wreck what got us here. ANY undrafted QB is fix-a-flat. If Luck or RGIII falls to us, snap them up. If not, keep on keeping on.
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I like Schaub...I'd be fine w Manning coming in.
Manning for Mario? (Cap Wise)
What do we lose on Offense besides that bootleg pass?
That bootleg is the reason our offense works so well. I wouldn't get rid of it for anything.
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solomon needs to stay away from my threads -_-
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Boselli 2: Electric Dumbaloo

Solomon usually has no clue, this time it was just a softball of copy.
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Boselli 2: Electric Dumbaloo
Solomon usually has no clue, this time it was just a softball of copy.
Brilliant and hilarious!!! Good for you KT to show a comical side1!

The only difference is the deal for Boselli also brought us both Gary Walker and Seth Payne... Seth, BTW, does a weekly show on 1560 The Game and STILL refers to the Texans as "Us" and "We" which is kinda cool... Or should I say "KEWL" for the hipsters?
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That bootleg is the reason our offense works so well. I wouldn't get rid of it for anything.
Not even for a laser rocket arm? Shirley, you jest!!!
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Default Re: Solomon: If Manning on market, Texans should be first in line

LOL

Nobody even knows if he will ever play again. 3 neck surgeries - and you guys complain about Schaub. One hit and he may never walk again.

Until he is cleared to play, it is stupid to even think about getting him.

You want to forfiet the rest of the team to pay him? There goes the no 2 defense as you can't afford to pay him and them. There goes Foster - you will not be able to afford him either.

Sure the Colts won a lot of games, but how many times did they actually make it to the Super Bowl? We can damn close with a 3rd string rookie.

Having Manning does not guarantee a trip to the Super Bowl. The Texans team we have right now without Manning has a better chance of getting there.
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Solomon never ceases to amaze me!!

PLEASE Queen Solomon, put the pipe down.

A) Manning wants to call ALL the plays on the field.

B) Kubiak wouldn't give up the reigns to his offense.

C) No one knows the real status of Manning's neck.

D) They call Pay-me Manning for a reason.
And Wade is not planning a secret overthrow of the team.
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That bootleg is the reason our offense works so well. I wouldn't get rid of it for anything.
I disagree. The run game and play action is why our offense is so potent, not the bootleg pass to the TE. Manning also has one hell of a play fake...with virtually no run game.

Manning's Arm >>>>>> Schaub's Arm
Manning's Accuracy >>>>>> Schaub's Accuracy
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A Texans official said Friday the team is confident and all early indications are that Schaub will be 100 percent by the start of next season. There is no guarantee of that.

He is coming off Lisfranc surgery on his foot, an injury from which some players never recover. Three years after that surgery forced him to miss a Patriots Super Bowl victory, Ty Law said he wasn’t 100 percent. Glenn Earl started every game at safety for the Texans in 2006, but he suffered that injury in an exhibition game the next season and never again played in the NFL.
Solomon's article blows chunks, but that part I agree with.

Smithiak would be very foolish if they don't plan on Schaub never returning.
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Jerome Justice must really need hits for his blog.
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Solomon's article blows chunks, but that part I agree with.

Smithiak would be very foolish if they don't plan on Schaub never returning.
Schaub's been very confident in his progress. And he has no reason to fake it-- the starting job is still his.

Unless he thinks Kubiak is tempted to blow up everything he's coached for the past 20 years and break the bank for Manning.
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Solomon's article blows chunks, but that part I agree with.

Smithiak would be very foolish if they don't plan on Schaub never returning.
Me too!
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