Hey everybody! Duane Brown sucks!

[drunkcookie]

WTF? I'm not big on neg rep myself, but anyone who thinks you move a 2nd team all-pro player from his current position (meaning he's considered #2 out of 32) deserves all the neg rep allowed...

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Texn4life

For the record I watched every Jets game for the past 2 years and I can tell you that Ferguson has been much worse than Duane Brown for the past 2 years. He's maybe the most overrated LT in the entire league in my opinion.

My opinion, looks like Ferguson has regressed since his rookie season.

[The Cush]

Haha Longball replied and rescinded his invitation for me to do the Texans analysis for their mock next week after I told him to stop watching so much Lifetime and Hallmark channels. He also says he's the one in charge of doing their Big Board, which now explains a lot.

[BigBull17]

Brown is elite. Anybody who wants to call Brown a 'swinging door' just doesnt pay attention. BTW, Winsotn has his faults, but there are a lot of RT's he is a substantial upgrade over. Just stupid.

[ThaShark316]

I'll just leave this here:

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just a reminder, only 1 offensive tackle played 250+ snaps in pass protection & didnt give up a sack - take a bow Duane Brown of the Texans

[Big Lou]

That guy is right, Duane Brown sucks, cut his ass as soon as possible. I think the problwm is that he must have faced a crappy rookie DE in practice a lot, I think we should cut Watt as well. We need to cap space to resign Matt Lienhart.

[DocBar]

I'm on record as saying that Brown isn't an elite LT and that I think he'd definitely be an elite RT. He worked on changing my mind about that.
I'm also on record as saying Winston isn't a very good RT. I didn't change my mind on that so much. I think he's a road grader in run blocking, but just doesn't seem to have the footwork/arm length/technical skills in pass pro. Plus he's usually good for a drive killing penalty or two a game. I'm not saying Winston is chopped liver, but I wouldn't hesitate to land a top prospect LT, let him learn for a year and see how Winston would do at G after that.

[welsh texan]

I hear revolving doors playing O-line were responsible for zero sacks last year in the NFL as well

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Carr Bombed

LMAO! I already got a response back from "Mr. Long ball".

I think we've got a few draftniks who should take him up on his offer... they'd do a really good job I think.

Originally Posted by Carr Bombed

This guy doesn't have a clue. Who gives a crap how good Brown would be as a pulling guard. You could literally say that about any decent LT in the league. The LT is usually the most athletic and most talented OLineman on your team. There's a saying that the most important position on your football team is the QB position. The 2nd most important position...is the guy protecting his blind side. I don't get the logic of moving Duane inside just because he'd be a great player there when he's already a great player at the toughest position to fill on the offensive line.

This guy doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

Earlier in our ZBS learning days, we did see the guards pull & get to the second level more often than they had last season. Wade Smith was pulling & abusing LBs a lot in 2010... don't know why, but not so much in 2011.

Duane has been a monster on the second level & lead blocking on the play side. So he's kinda playing like an OG from the tackle position. I think Kubiak does a pretty good job of getting his OLmen where they need to be, regardless of where they are on the line.

Would he be an awesome LG? Probably. But it would be pretty hard to replace him (I think) at LT.

[disaacks3]

Originally Posted by badboy

Wait a minute. Have not people on this very MB complained about Winston & suggested he move inside? Brown is quietly getting job done so he is wrong there. I am satisifed with both OTs but whoever this is has the right to voice his opinion and give us material to discuss.

Move Winston = OK (He cannot handle speed rushers effectively) Move Brown - No way in HELL. Top 5 LT in the league.

Originally Posted by DocBar

I'm on record as saying that Brown isn't an elite LT and that I think he'd definitely be an elite RT. He worked on changing my mind about that.
I'm also on record as saying Winston isn't a very good RT. I didn't change my mind on that so much. I think he's a road grader in run blocking, but just doesn't seem to have the footwork/arm length/technical skills in pass pro. Plus he's usually good for a drive killing penalty or two a game. I'm not saying Winston is chopped liver, but I wouldn't hesitate to land a top prospect LT, let him learn for a year and see how Winston would do at G after that.

If Duane hasn't changed your mind yet, it's never gonna change.

I'm with ya' on Winston. Maybe if they drape chicken wings on the opposing DE?

[Texaninlild]

Wow...are writers from BSPN working on this site as well? Did these people watch game this season? Any game? Any team???

[DocBar]

Originally Posted by disaacks3

Move Winston = OK (He cannot handle speed rushers effectively) Move Brown - No way in HELL. Top 5 LT in the league.

If Duane hasn't changed your mind yet, it's never gonna change.

I'm with ya' on Winston. Maybe if they drape chicken wings on the opposing DE?

I stated that Brown was working on changing my mind. He did very well this season but still had a few issues. I didn;t get to DVR any of the games this season, but I would bet good money that Brown gave up quite a few more pressures than he's being given credit for, and I would say at least a couple of sacks. Grading this depends on the grader. There were several sacks because of outside pressure, on Brown's side, causing the QB to move into the sack. Was Brown completely at fault? No. But he does have some culpability in some of those.

I'm gonna withhold my final judgement til next season. Then I'll make my call to Bobby and have my say.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by DocBar

I stated that Brown was working on changing my mind. He did very well this season but still had a few issues. I didn;t get to DVR any of the games this season, but I would bet good money that Brown gave up quite a few more pressures than he's being given credit for, and I would say at least a couple of sacks. Grading this depends on the grader. There were several sacks because of outside pressure, on Brown's side, causing the QB to move into the sack. Was Brown completely at fault? No. But he does have some culpability in some of those.

I'm gonna withhold my final judgement til next season. Then I'll make my call to Bobby and have my say.

I know he's given credit for neutralizing T-Sizzle vs Baltimore in the play-offs.....

personally, neutralize wouldn't be the word I would use, but he did a pretty dang good job. Suggs got by, got a few pressures & a hit (I think) but it's Suggs...

[DocBar]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I know he's given credit for neutralizing T-Sizzle vs Baltimore in the play-offs.....

personally, neutralize wouldn't be the word I would use, but he did a pretty dang good job. Suggs got by, got a few pressures & a hit (I think) but it's Suggs...

One game does not a season make. I think Yoda said that. I heard he's a Texans fan.

[SW H-TOWN]

Seegara neg rep me too. At least I doubt he will come back and start some crazy thread.

[Carr Bombed]

Originally Posted by DocBar

One game does not a season make. I think Yoda said that. I heard he's a Texans fan.

It wasn't just one game... Duane Brown kicked Suggs ass BOTH times he played him. He was even more dominant against Suggs the first time they faced off.


But yeah, your right.. "one game does not a season make". Luckily for Brown nobody is talking just about one game. He was dominant all last season. Does one season not make a season as well?

[TheMatrix31]

How is Duane Brown's dominance questioned? Wow.

[Texan_Bill]

Duane Brown, the worst "reach", left tackle..... EVER!!!!

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Duane Brown, the worst "reach", left tackle..... EVER!!!!

This thread's great....Pffft

Wasn't your boy swt one that had his panties all twisted on the DB pick?

[Señor Stan]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

This thread's great....Pffft

Wasn't your boy swt one that had his panties all twisted on the DB pick?

umm...kind of...I guess...

Originally Posted by swtbound07

i hate this. I want to cry. Pathetic. Pathetic. An utter failure. No. Damnit NO.

Originally Posted by swtbound07

we reached massively, and passed on cason and phillips. this WILL haunt us. Screw Gibbs.We reached for the 8th freaking tackle. I hate this.

Originally Posted by swtbound07

this pick will haunt us. mark my words....we messed up bad. We traded back ignorantly, and for what??? really? im curious...espn hasn't covered the trade. What did we get for passing on mendenhall

Originally Posted by swtbound07

yes...im pissed that we took the EIGHTH BEST TACKLE over Cason and phillips. Im pissed mendenhall fell to us by some miracle and we threw him away for a 3rd and a 6th...and then BLEW a first round pick. Screw this. Screw Gibbs. This is a pathetic reach.

Originally Posted by swtbound07

if he turns into a franchise LT, i'll eat my texans hat live on webcam.

This last post is really ironic because with the trade down to get Brown, the Texans were able to draft Steve Slaton...and...

Originally Posted by swtbound07

If Slaton isn't starting week 1... I will eat my texans hat live on webcam.

Two hats not eaten, if I am counting correctly.