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Old 01-30-2012   #41
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Franchising MW would NOT drop his cap number but would in fact push it to $23m.

Its the greater value of the following -

The average of the top five salaries at the position of the player in question.

Or

100%+20% of the previous years salary.

In this case the greater value would be 100%+20% of the previous years salary as it is considerably more than the top five OLB's average salary.

I think teams will attempt to avoid this in the future by not backloading the final year.




I dont think they can afford that much when they have Foster , Dreesen , Myers and Briesel to deal with not to mention any outside FA's thye may want to bring in.

They have to get his cap number down in the 10m range for the coming year at most.
I can see Joel being a cap casualty. Don't advocate that but we've got #88 on the payroll for a lot less and he plays D too!
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I can see Joel being a cap casualty. Don't advocate that but we've got #88 on the payroll for a lot less and he plays D too!
Joel was a FA when we got him. I doubt there are many teams that are going to be drooling over Dressen. Chances are he'll be ours on the cheap.
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No, the Texans can't afford both. Not without losing key FA's at other positions. Keep AF and hope MW feels some loyalty.
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No, the Texans can't afford both. Not without losing key FA's at other positions. Keep AF and hope MW feels some loyalty.
I think both Arian & Mario are going to get big deals, with healthy signing bonuses, low cap numbers for 2012, that will balloon in 2013 & beyond.

Myers will probably get a deal structured similarly, but not a "huge" deal. Brisiel will get a yeoman's contract, but he'll be taken care of.

Dressen will get a modest deal & we'll probably lose Jason Allen.
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I think both Arian & Mario are going to get big deals, with healthy signing bonuses, low cap numbers for 2012, that will balloon in 2013 & beyond.

Myers will probably get a deal structured similarly, but not a "huge" deal. Brisiel will get a yeoman's contract, but he'll be taken care of.

Dressen will get a modest deal & we'll probably lose Jason Allen.
Well if he doesn't cost too much we could give him an exception contract. I read somewhere that this year teams get 3 $1.5 million exceptions (3 contracts worth $1.5 million each that won't count against the cap). I'll post the link when I find it.

EDIT: Bingo...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/67...football-terms
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Well if he doesn't cost too much we could give him an exception contract. I read somewhere that this year teams get 3 $1.5 million exceptions (3 contracts worth $1.5 million each that won't count against the cap). I'll post the link when I find it.

EDIT: Bingo...
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/67...football-terms
I'm thinking we'll lose him because he played a lot, teams watched him, & he's played pretty well. I can see him as a #2 CB on many teams. CBs are a hot commodity & he may be one of the top CBs in this FA class.

He'll probably get an offer we can't match.
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I think both Arian & Mario are going to get big deals, with healthy signing bonuses, low cap numbers for 2012, that will balloon in 2013 & beyond.

Myers will probably get a deal structured similarly, but not a "huge" deal. Brisiel will get a yeoman's contract, but he'll be taken care of.

Dressen will get a modest deal & we'll probably lose Jason Allen.
Now if you had included Jones getting cut, I'd be happy with this post.
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I'm thinking we'll lose him because he played a lot, teams watched him, & he's played pretty well. I can see him as a #2 CB on many teams. CBs are a hot commodity & he may be one of the top CBs in this FA class.

He'll probably get an offer we can't match.
Not really...

Cortland Finnegan
Brent Grimes
Brandon Carr
Carlos Rodgers

Off the top of my head.

He may get an offer we can't match, but there are many more CBs that actually started that will command more $ than Allen IMO.

Edit: Here a list of FA CBs
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/fa/db.html
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Not really...

Cortland Finnegan
Brent Grimes
Brandon Carr
Carlos Rodgers

Off the top of my head.

He may get an offer we can't match, but there are many more CBs that actually started that will command more $ than Allen IMO.

Edit: Here a list of FA CBs
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2012/fa/db.html
Ooh, didn't realize there were so many. I doubt Grimes, Carr, or Rodgers will hit FA.... Still, a lot of names on that list (even the "other notables" list) that may get more attention.

We may be able to keep him.
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