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Old 03-08-2012   #461
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the pick. And honestly, y'all can blast me if you want to. You don't have to be nice about it. I wouldn't have volunteered to take over the team if I couldn't handle it.

As I stated before, at this spot in the draft any WR would have been a slight reach. And I had Perry rated as the highest player still on the board. I wanted Perry pretty bad but I just couldn't pass on Randle, who I see as an impact player at WR.

Considering the QB play at LSU, I would say that Randle was better than just solid this year. It is hard for a skill player to stand out when the QB can't put the ball in his hands. Randle did manage to account for over 40% of his team's receiving total (about the same rate as Hill).

Randle did manage 5 catches in his two matchups against Kirkpatrick. Not impressive by any stretch but he wasn't exactly shutout. Furthermore, bashing Randle for his performance against Alabama seems silly. Alabama was far and away the best defense in the entire country. And it's not close at all. How many NFL players do they have on that defense? And how many does LSU have on their offense? But the only matchup that matters is Randle vs Kirkpatrick? Did you watch the games? LSU's offensive line was over matched from the word go. And their QBs were even worse. What is Randle supposed to do? Line up at QB and throw the ball to himself?

Here is how Hill did against his top competition:
1 catch against David Amerson (North Carolina St)
0 catches against Chase Minnifield (Virginia)
1 catch against Brandon McGee (Miami)
2 catches against Jayron Hosley (Virginia Tech)

Not exactly a world beater. And don't even bother comparing the offensive styles. LSU only averaged 10 passing yards more per game. The difference is Georgia Tech's passing game was supported by a MUCH better rushing attack, thus taking pressure off of the QB and WRs.



I don't have a problem with this statement. The problem I have is that most of the people spouting this support Hill for the pick, and he showed even less in his college career than Randle did.
I have yet to study Randle, and I don't want to criticize any pick either.

Just thought I throw out a couple of numbers since they were brought up:
Against a common opponent (Georgia), Randle had 2 catches for 15, Hill had 3 for 78.

No matter how bad the combination of QB at LSU were, they can't compare with Washington at Ga Tech.

If you read the Stephen Hill's thread, you can see that his lack of production had nothing to do with him or any CB defending him. It was all about poor QB play and/or pressure from the defense.
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Dutchrudder, I sent you a PM about getting back into this mock. I'll take the Atlanta Falcons if no one else has already spoken up for them.
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after an extremely brisk first round, the st. louis rams take a step back to see where the chips have fallen. after surveying the damage, they decide to select:

zach brown, wlb, north carolina



after hoping one of the better WR's slips through the cracks, the rams decide to go in a different direction and select zach brown out of unc. one of the many nfl talents of the past couple of years from the unc defense, he fits directly into a weak LB corps and helps solidify one of the weaker personnel groupings on the rams roster.
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Dutchrudder, I sent you a PM about getting back into this mock. I'll take the Atlanta Falcons if no one else has already spoken up for them.
I added you back as the Falcons GM. The only team without a GM is the Raiders.
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I have not addressed Hill in any of my posts. Not sure why you brought him up, but yeah, I wouldn't draft Hill in the first either for most of the same reasons.
So Dopp, who would you have taken for the Texans?
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after an extremely brisk first round, the st. louis rams take a step back to see where the chips have fallen. after surveying the damage, they decide to select:

zach brown, wlb, north carolina



after hoping one of the better WR's slips through the cracks, the rams decide to go in a different direction and select zach brown out of unc. one of the many nfl talents of the past couple of years from the unc defense, he fits directly into a weak LB corps and helps solidify one of the weaker personnel groupings on the rams roster.
This is the 1st pick that doesn't fill the #1 need for a team. (True BPA)

Great pick, Brown has top 10 talent.
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So Dopp, who would you have taken for the Texans?
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Is this assuming Myers and or Brisel are gone?
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Is this assuming Myers and or Brisel are gone?
Yes and no.

I think Konz was the BPA at that point in the draft. He has the size and ability to play OC or OG. If Myers did not resign, he could play C. If Briesel did not resign, he could play OG. If both resigned he could replace Wade Smith.

So, whether or not they are signed, there is a spot for him in the starting lineup.
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Damn you pbat. You took my guy. Great pick btw. That guy is a hell of a football player and a first rounder IMO.
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Dopp your up, then Section516.
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Good morning/afternoon to all of the other teams in the Texans Talk Mock draft. The DoppelColts are now ready to make our next selection.

As a struggling franchise we took a man who we thought would be a cornerstone of our franchise. While there is no certainty in this process we felt he was the best available player that fit our needs.

Going into our second round pick we decided to employ the same strategy: Best player available at a position of need. We believe we have found this young man and fully expect him to make an impact from Day 1.

One thing we were very impressed with when reviewing our game film was this young man's penchant for health. He started 40 straight games in college. Considering how violent the game is, that is pretty impressive. We were also impressed with his desire to help him team above padding his own stats. During his time in college, he has played LT, OG, and even filled in some at RT. An unselfish player to say the least.

We were also impressed with his quality of play. He is a behemoth at 6'6 333lbs, but is surprising athletic. He is known for running down field and making a key block to help his receiver or running back pick up a few extra yards. He is a powerful run blocker, and protects his QB in the passing game. We envision him sliding into OG for this season and possibly (depending on how ben Ijalana fares, moving him to RT if neccesary).

But his skills are not the reason we chose him. We chose him becuase of his heart. The man LOVES football. He is a high motor guy who plays with a mean streak within the rules of the game.

So, without any further ado, The DoppelColts are pleased to present to you our number 2 selection of the 2012 Texans Mock Draft: Mr. Kelechi Osemele!



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1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2. Kelechi Osemele. OG/OT, Iowa State
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I PMd and emailed him.

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I'm getting excited... I have one guy that I really hope no one picks in the next two slots...
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Mark Barron still on the board? Interesting.
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With expected cap space, I'm looking at signing a WR or OL as a free agent to be a starter. So, expecting one of those two spots to be shored up in FA, I am going to address the defense..

The draft happened to fall into place where i can take the #1 rated safety and a top 20 prospect at a position of need..Mark Barron, S, Alabama.
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