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View Poll Results: How do you feel about Kubiak
I hope he is the coach here for the next 10 years 28 20.29%
Kubiak should be fired and Wade promoted to head coach 5 3.62%
If Kubiak has a bad year next season, he should be gone 27 19.57%
If he has a bad year next year, he should be given one more year 7 5.07%
I'm on the fence...Depends on how exactly things shake out 42 30.43%
Kubiak nor Wade are good head coaches. Hopefully Wary can get it done. 29 21.01%
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Old 01-21-2012   #61
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Kubiak has to deliver playoff football again next year - simple. We don't make the postseason again, and he is gone. As far as I'm concerned, the playoffs is a different beast - anything can happen in one game. Kubiak should, and must be judged on what he does over the first 16 games of the season. If we win the division again - give him the multi-year contract. If we don't - after making the playoffs the year before with multiple injuries - he would be toast.

I hope he is here for many years to come, and his hands start to get weighed down with Superbowl rings.
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As long as he is handcuffed to Wade or some other proven DC then im fine with him being here. Next season will also be a good indicator to see if Kubiak deserves an extension with the schedule we have.
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how do i feel about kubiak? read all of the posts here and among other teams' forums quoting "most complete team in football" and "starting qb away from the superbowl" to know how i feel about kubiak.

kubiak's not the best head coach ever, never will be. what he is is a great offensive coach and someone that all 53 will fight for every single day. a fan favorite here (bill cowher) is only half of that. in the past 3 seasons we've had the league leading passer, the league leading receiver, the league leading rusher, and the "best offensive line in football" ... that's how i feel about kubiak.

wade phillips is alone with dick lebeau among truly great defensive coordinators, and we need to give him king midas money to stay here, but look what he's working with. all but 3 (4 once mario went down) of wade's players were already here - kubiak put that talent on defense together by turning lemons into all pros on offense and giving the defense a sh*t-ton of resources. that's how i feel about kubiak.

i've preached for years that i'm here for the long haul, give him time because he's doing it right and building over from the draft. once our picks get closer to becoming vets we'll be dominant. well, our 2006 draft is now in their prime as young veterans ... how's our roster look?

edit: i come across as a bit angry when i drink lol.
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Kubiak is 47-49 after 6 seasons. Do you think he will have a losing record after next year?

Bill Bellichick was 41-55 after 6 seasons. Heck he won the SB the next season with a 11-5 record (which would have made his record 52-60). Did that make him a loser?
Holy cow I sure hope he won't have a losing record after next season.

Comparing him to BB is weak. For every BB, there are a hundred others who stunk it up in their first few years and continued to stink it up or just fizzed out. Don't forget to remind the jury about the hundred others. Then again, you might not win the court case if you don't twist the facts.
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Holy cow I sure hope he won't have a losing record after next season.

Comparing him to BB is weak. For every BB, there are a hundred others who stunk it up in their first few years and continued to stink it up or just fizzed out. Don't forget to remind the jury about the hundred others. Then again, you might not win the court case if you don't twist the facts.
I am not comparing him to Belichick. You are comparing Kubiak to Belichick. Belichick has a 17 year body of HC work. Kubiak has 6 years of HC work. I am comparing their first 6 years. Belichick had a worse record, the same amount of playoff wins/appearances. Kubiak has 1 division title in that span (0 for Belichick). You are using the benefit of hindsight. I am saying look at their 1st 6 years (since Kubiak does not have another 11 to compare to BB). Do you seriously think coaches immediately experience success in their early years?

My point is that it takes time for a coach to win in this league (especially when they have to build a franchise). I don't think anyone can argue that Kubiak has done a great job building this franchise into a contender.
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First of all we didn't need Wade. We NEEDED a good defensive coordinator. Wade Phillips was the best one available. I am tired of fans believing it was Wade that did everything. He fixed the defense. That's it. When we had all those mediocre seasons we had mediocre to poor defense. We have been a top 10 offense in every season since 2007. Top 5 since 2008. Wade had nothing to do with offense. That was never our problem.

Every coach needs a great supporting cast.

Belichick hasn't won a SB since Charlie Weis left. He hasn't won a playoff game prior to this season (if you want to count Denver because they will probably lose to the Ravens) since Josh McDaniels left.

Peyton was 7-9 and 6-10 in the 2 seasons prior to his hiring of Gregg Williams. He won the SB the next year.

Pittsburgh Steelers have Dick Lebeau.

You can make the argument that none of these coaches would have done anything with the supporting cast that they made the accomplishments with.
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It will be interesting to see who replaces Williams in New Orleans and how they fare next season.

The major failure of Kubiak's "term" is that he didn't do sufficient research in order to get a high quality defensive mind to run our defense.
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Holy cow I sure hope he won't have a losing record after next season.

Comparing him to BB is weak. For every BB, there are a hundred others who stunk it up in their first few years and continued to stink it up or just fizzed out. Don't forget to remind the jury about the hundred others. Then again, you might not win the court case if you don't twist the facts.
What facts did he "twist"? Just because the truth doesn't suit your side of the argument doesn't make it untrue.
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It will be interesting to see who replaces Williams in New Orleans and how they fare next season.

The major failure of Kubiak's "term" is that he didn't do sufficient research in order to get a high quality defensive mind to run our defense.
Steve Spagnuola is the new DC in NO.

Yeah I believe he deserves criticism for the questionable hiring of Frank Bush. But the only thing that kept us out of playoffs and from being contenders was a solid defense. I hope he learns from this in the future (just in case Wade leaves). Other than that I think he has done an exceptional job with the franchise.
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My point is that it takes time for a coach to win in this league (especially when they have to build a franchise). I don't think anyone can argue that Kubiak has done a great job building this franchise into a contender.
You know, people say this but every year there's a Jim Harbaugh that comes in as a first year HC and sets the league on it's ear. It's too late to talk about replacing Kubiak now. We've already gone through the long and tidious rebuilding job that only happens in Houston. OK, we're there...Gary got his six (6!) years to turn this team around. That much time is plenty for probably anyone to turn a team around, it's just that in this day and age there are so many really good HC's out there that can do it in much less time, or at least aren't given an eternity (in football years) to do the job. The belief was that if we replaced Kubiak 2 or 3 years ago we'd go into a major re-re-building process....again, see Jim Harbaugh (SF 49ers) Sometimes the team has the talent everywhere but at the top. Although I give the team all the props for winning the South Division, let's be honest....the Division all but imploded on it's own leaving us sort of holding the trophy. But I'd wait and see what happens next year before I'd extend him again.

I'd like to see what we can do with a healthy Matt Schaub in the playoffs.
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You know, people say this but every year there's a Jim Harbaugh that comes in as a first year HC and sets the league on it's ear. It's too late to talk about replacing Kubiak now. We've already gone through the long and tidious rebuilding job that only happens in Houston. OK, we're there...Gary got his six (6!) years to turn this team around. That much time is plenty for probably anyone to turn a team around, it's just that in this day and age there are so many really good HC's out there that can do it in much less time, or at least aren't given an eternity (in football years) to do the job. The belief was that if we replaced Kubiak 2 or 3 years ago we'd go into a major re-re-building process....again, see Jim Harbaugh (SF 49ers) Sometimes the team has the talent everywhere but at the top. Although I give the team all the props for winning the South Division, let's be honest....the Division all but imploded on it's own leaving us sort of holding the trophy. But I'd wait and see what happens next year before I'd extend him again.

I'd like to see what we can do with a healthy Matt Schaub in the playoffs.
You would have a good point, except Jim Harbaugh did not build that franchise...

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My point is that it takes time for a coach to win in this league (especially when they have to build a franchise). I don't think anyone can argue that Kubiak has done a great job building this franchise into a contender.
...Jim Harbaugh came into a good situation. The 49ers were essentially the Texans of the NFC for the past 4 seasons. Good talent on the roster, but just not getting it done on the field. He deserves credit for getting them to believe, but not the credit for building that team. Nice try though.
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I've got to be honest, I wouldn't have extended Kubiak after 9-7, I'd have left him on the hotseat through 6-10, and I'd have therefore fired him before 10-6.

I saw progress throughout his tenure up till this season, I saw him building talent on the roster and I saw the team slowly improve, far too slowly for my likeing at the time though.

Now that we've got to where we are I see that I'd have been in the wrong, yet I still wouldn't mortgage the house on his coaching style leading us to a decade of domination in the AFC South.

I still see a lot of things that worry me, like his playcalling tendencies when under pressure, for instance. He hasn't shown me that he can go out and spend a top pick on an offensive skill player and find real value yet, which he's going to need to do now.

With all that said, the future looks brighter now than its ever done, it's really hard not to think, from a fans perspective, that this team could be heading to the Superbowl in 12 months time, and thats down to the job Kubiak has done.
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I've got to be honest, I wouldn't have extended Kubiak after 9-7, I'd have left him on the hotseat through 6-10, and I'd have therefore fired him before 10-6.

I saw progress throughout his tenure up till this season, I saw him building talent on the roster and I saw the team slowly improve, far too slowly for my likeing at the time though.

Now that we've got to where we are I see that I'd have been in the wrong, yet I still wouldn't mortgage the house on his coaching style leading us to a decade of domination in the AFC South.

I still see a lot of things that worry me, like his playcalling tendencies when under pressure, for instance. He hasn't shown me that he can go out and spend a top pick on an offensive skill player and find real value yet, which he's going to need to do now.

With all that said, the future looks brighter now than its ever done, it's really hard not to think, from a fans perspective, that this team could be heading to the Superbowl in 12 months time, and thats down to the job Kubiak has done.
What's you definition of a top pick? Because I don't even think we spent a 1st round pick on an offensive player during Kubiak's tenure. Also, we got Ben Tate in the 2nd round if it means anything.
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Yeah but those 3 rings have the benefit of hindsight...see where your observation doesn't compute. Do you think people gave "the hoody" all the praise he gets now after his 6th season? I am not comparing the 2. I am just pointing out that even HOF coaches don't just come into the league and start winning. Belichick struggled early on and learned from his mistakes. I think we can clearly see that Kubiak has learned from mistakes from past seasons, but some people can't get over the past. I think Kubiak has this franchise going in the right direction.
Is trotting out the same knucklehead and expecting that same bum to win the #2 receiver position really "learning from past mistakes?"

The only person who really learned from past mistakes was Bob McNair, when he went over his coach and G.M. and hired a experienced Dcoord who had a proven track record and didn't just settle for another F.O.G.

I'm willing to give Kubiak a extension and I'm willing to give him some more time, but I'm not ready to act like he's turned a corner coaching wise or someone who's "learned from past mistakes". He still has to prove that.
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You would have a good point, except Jim Harbaugh did not build that franchise...



...Jim Harbaugh came into a good situation. The 49ers were essentially the Texans of the NFC for the past 4 seasons. Good talent on the roster, but just not getting it done on the field. He deserves credit for getting them to believe, but not the credit for building that team. Nice try though.
Jim Harbaugh took a perenial loser team (at least for the last 6 or 7 years) and turned it into a NFC Title contending team in ONE year....and that would be a year without a TC, a new system etc...he should get all the credit for making the pieces work. Dudes an incredible coach.

Seems like no matter with which team one tries to compare us to after a coaching change, be it N.O. when Peyton took over, the Jets when Ryan took over or SF when Harbough took over for some reason the response is always that Kubiak had it way tougher. No one would have looked at the SF team last year and seen a NFC championship contending team. Only now that it's come to pass do some people say that the talent was there all of the time. Yeah, we all knew Alex Smith stood shoulder to shoulder with Brady, Drew and Eli all this time right?
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The only person who really learned from past mistakes was Bob McNair, when he went over his coach and G.M. and hired a experienced Dcoord who had a proven track record and didn't just settle for another F.O.G.
Let's don't forget it was McNair that went out and hired Phillips, if it was up to Kubiak we'd still probably have Bush out there. He kept Richard Smith at least a year too long before finally cutting him loose.
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Jim Harbaugh took a perenial loser team (at least for the last 6 or 7 years) and turned it into a NFC Title contending team in ONE year....and that would be a year without a TC, a new system etc...he should get all the credit for making the pieces work. Dudes an incredible coach.

Seems like no matter with which team one tries to compare us to after a coaching change, be it N.O. when Peyton took over, the Jets when Ryan took over or SF when Harbough took over for some reason the response is always that Kubiak had it way tougher. No one would have looked at the SF team last year and seen a NFC championship contending team. Only now that it's come to pass do some people say that the talent was there all of the time. Yeah, we all knew Alex Smith stood shoulder to shoulder with Brady, Drew and Eli all this time right?
What have the Texans been in the past 10 years (let alone 6 and 7)? Like I already said he got into a good situation. The teams was already stacked, he only had to get the guys to buy in. He did a good job in doing it. That's it though. He didn't build the team. He just got the guys to buy in.

They were the favorites to win the NFC West for the past few seasons. Sound familiar? I guess you were the only person that didn't realize they actually had talent on their team for the past few year. They just needed someone to put it together.
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What's you definition of a top pick? Because I don't even think we spent a 1st round pick on an offensive player during Kubiak's tenure. Also, we got Ben Tate in the 2nd round if it means anything.
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