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Old 01-15-2012   #21
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One more thing I would consider if I'm Rick Smith would be a trade for someone like Shane Lechler. Not sure how Oakland would feel about it but I would easily give up a 3rd rounder, probably a 2nd for him. Sounds crazy but with his leg backing up this defense I think we shave off 2-3 points per game. I know Hartman looked promising but even at his best he can't match Lechler and who knows after that injury.

From Oakland's perspective it makes sense because they have been giving away their draft picks for the last few years and really don't have a promising avenue to upgrade their team this offseason outside of free agency.
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A legit #2 wide receiver and #2 corner. I'd rather sign a corner in free agency, someone who's established. I think it's easier for a wide receiver to get drafted and make an impact that it is for a cornerback.
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I'd like to draft a WR and sign Early Doucet if possible. You can forget about one of the big gun WRs.
I'm with you on this. We have enough salary cap issues as it is.
I would pick Harry Douglas or maybe a Steve Smith (phi) to add to our WR corps.

You know what I'd REEEEALLY like... is a Vernon Davis/Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez beast-type TE to challenge Daniels and Dreessen for their spots. Any of them in the upcoming draft?
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I agree that a WR is needed. Andre will be in his 10th year and is still a beast, but it would be nice to have a compliment to him.

What's the situation with Brandon Harris? Can he be the CB that we need opposite JoJo? He never seems to be active and I'm not sure if it's because he isn't getting it or if they didn't want to throw a rookie CB at the Lions again.

O-Line depth is always needed.

Get Foster a long term contract.

Get Wade Phillips a pay raise.

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I'm with you on this. We have enough salary cap issues as it is.
I would pick Harry Douglas or maybe a Steve Smith (phi) to add to our WR corps.

You know what I'd REEEEALLY like... is a Vernon Davis/Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez beast-type TE to challenge Daniels and Dreessen for their spots. Any of them in the upcoming draft?
I like OD and Dressen. We get a couple of receivers who can run routes you will find our TE's getting more open.

NE's TE's have Branch and Welker, and oh yeah that other guy Brady.
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I'm with you on this. We have enough salary cap issues as it is.
I would pick Harry Douglas or maybe a Steve Smith (phi) to add to our WR corps.

You know what I'd REEEEALLY like... is a Vernon Davis/Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez beast-type TE to challenge Daniels and Dreessen for their spots. Any of them in the upcoming draft?

Dunno, not a college football fan at all.

I think we're fine at TE.
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I like OD and Dressen. We get a couple of receivers who can run routes you will find our TE's getting more open.

NE's TE's have Branch and Welker, and oh yeah that other guy Brady.
I like them too. But apparently they can't get open unless the play action suckers the defense. Gronk, Davis, and Hernandez can catch in traffic and, more importantly, run away from people. Neither OD nor Dreessen have that kind of speed.

And maybe Brady makes Gronk and Hernandez appear better than they really are but Vernon Davis is making Alex Smith look like a legit QB.

I'd swap him for O.D. straight up in a NY minute.

Tell me... in the biggest game of his Texans career, O.D. has TWO catches. Where WAS HE?
Now maybe that's on the rook; he did seem to be fixated on A.J. But still.... TWO catches??
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I would take Jerome Simpson to replace Jacoby's role as Deep Threat/Speed Guy. Then Draft Dwight Jones with our first pick to groom behind AJ.

Sign Foster first, work out a deal with Mario, Use the leftover FA money on Myers.

Draft a solid interior lineman in Rounds 2 or 3 to be depth for our Oline.

Draft 1 more Monster to play DE behind Watt and Smith until Smith retires. (maybe a goal for next offseason)

Sign a dedicated Kick and Punt Returner

The rest is BPA with what we've got available
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I like them too. But apparently they can't get open unless the play action suckers the defense. Gronk, Davis, and Hernandez can catch in traffic and, more importantly, run away from people. Neither OD nor Dreessen have that kind of speed.

And maybe Brady makes Gronk and Hernandez appear better than they really are but Vernon Davis is making Alex Smith look like a legit QB.

I'd swap him for O.D. straight up in a NY minute.

Tell me... in the biggest game of his Texans career, O.D. has TWO catches. Where WAS HE?
Now maybe that's on the rook; he did seem to be fixated on A.J. But still.... TWO catches??
TJ looked like the rookie he is. He is what we thought he was.

It's hard to say what happened with OD today cus it didn't appear he was targeted.
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My reactions to this thread so far....

1) Why do we need a 'giant' NT? Had the 4th ranked rush defense in the league this year and just held Ray Rice 60 yds on 21 carries in a road playoff game. So tired of this subject.

2) How can we trade Mario if he's a FA? Maybe you do a franchise and trade, but I don't see why we trade him if we sign him. You either sign him or he walks. There is no in between.

Now, my thoughts on the offseason....


1) Pay Foster. He's earned it.

2) Pay Mario if you can. If the finances don't work you have to let him go. We can work with Barwin and Reed although ideally we keep Mario.

3) Try to pay Myers. Not a long term deal, but 3 years should do fine.

4) Cut Jacoby Jones. It's time, he's done nothing his entire career and it's been obvious to everyone but Gary Kubiak. Give up on the project and move on.

5) Draft a WR in the first 2 rounds and get a return man out of this draft. We have seen how weak the WR position is at this point after Andre and we need a return guy if cutting Jones. We need a guy like Alshon Jeffrey in the 1st and T.Y. Hilton in the 4th. Or take Kendall Wright in the 1st, who can do both.

6) Need an interior lineman early in the draft (2-3). Caldwell was awful this year and we don't really have any backups that I trust. This is a must if we can't re-sign Myers!!!

7) Take a DB in the draft (4-5). We don't know who will return at Safety so we might need to reload there. If not, we should add a CB just because.

8) Stay out of the Free Agency Market!!! This team is solid across the board. All of the weaknesses can be solved with the draft. There is no reason to go out and overpay for someone.

9) Re-sign Dressen and Rackers.

10) Add a D-Lineman in the 4th-5th. There will be a quality player there to add to the rotation.
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^^^ agree with everything except resigning Rackers. He missed a critical 50 yard field goal with the wind at his back and only made 84.2% of his field goals this year. I would rather draft a kicker in the 5-6th round and use the money saved not resigning Rackers on resigning Foster, Myers, or Williams
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#1 Bye Bye Jacoby Jones.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Veteran CB

4. NO QUARTERBACK SNEAKS!!

5. Pay Foster.

6. Move Mario back to old position. Keep Brooks Reed out on the field.
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I would really like to see us take care of our own FA's(my position on MW is well known by now), land a FA WR and draft for depth. We can just about draft BPA, regardless of position. Our only true need is at WR, but I would hate to see us reach for one. Besides, we'll be drafting 27-28. As we saw this season, it's hard to overestimate quality depth. across the board.
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I think we could do better at TE though and with OD's recent play you have to wonder if he'll become a cap casualty as we try to lock up Foster and Mario. (not that he's been bad or anything close to it. Just that they could do better I think)

I mean we did draft that Graham guy who was supposed to be just like OD and we draft a TE nearly every year and I doubt Kubiak will be able to restrain himself and will get the go ahead after having so many defense picks last year.
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And for me that is

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Jerome Simpson WR from Cincinatti Bengals. Y'know, as long as he leaves behind his Pot. Although I doubt he does, but would like him to hold off on it till after his professional career.

Anyway, He's got the speed!!! He's got the hands!!!, He's got the hops!!! He's got that big play ability!!! Signing him will solidify the #2 spot, or at least have him competing with Walter. Either way he is a definite upgrade over JJ, and now that the fan base wants to torch and pitchfork him out of town, I believe he'll get cut. Signing him would give us a WR core consisting of AJ, Simpson, Walter, 2012#1 Draft Pick WR, and 5th guy. I don't know about you but I like that group.

First and foremost he'd have to prove to McNair that he can hold off the Ganja for awhile. Actually, first and foremost he has to pry himself away from Cinci, then hold off the pot, then we'd have to offer him enough money to steal him from other teams. If we go after him first though we might have a chance, as there are other big name WR free agents that should be targeted heavily at the beginning of the offseason.

So, thoughts?
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I'd take Dwayne Bowe in a second as a FA .

1. the #1 need is WR or weapons in general .

2. Interior OL . That's this teams bread and butter and Smith and Caldwell aren't so hot .

3. CB

4. Upgrading depth all over .
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I'd like to see what the price tag would be for Reggie Wayne, and then draft a young WR in the first couple of rounds to groom.
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"Jerome had moments of greatness and moments of, 'what is going on?'" said Gruden. "We just need to have a lot more consistent group where Andy (Dalton) knows where everybody is going to be at all times." Simpson made highlight reels with a late-season touchdown flip, but finished seventh in the league in drops (9) while ranking just 30th in targets. There were few receivers less effective than Simpson in 2011. Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer has consistently predicted that Simpson won't be back with the Bengals.
I don't think so. And that's without even considering the weed situation.
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^^^ agree with everything except resigning Rackers. He missed a critical 50 yard field goal with the wind at his back and only made 84.2% of his field goals this year. I would rather draft a kicker in the 5-6th round and use the money saved not resigning Rackers on resigning Foster, Myers, or Williams
I disagree about Rackers. He was 15th in FG percentage this year. You aren't going to draft a rookie K who will do better. It's also a weak year for K in the draft. There's not those 1 or 2 guys who you WANT to draft, despite being specialists.

He has a relatively high salary for a Kicker, but that figure will likely be lower if he re-signs.
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1. Cut Jacoby Jones while your still in Baltimore, in fact there's no reason for him to even get on the plane home.
2. Draft a WR in the 1st round either Dwight Jones or Mohamed Sanu.
3. Let Mario walk and use the money saved to get another great CB.
4. Get another run stuffing DT in the draft.
5. 2nd round of the draft get a high quality OG
6. All the mid rounds of the draft should be used on depth at ILB, SS, O-line, RB, and P.
7. Lock up Wade Phillips long term.
8. Cut Matt Leinart.

The money saved with Mario walking and cutting Jacoby and Leinart should allow us to have a good FA.
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