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Old 01-15-2012   #21
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Default Re: Pay Foster now.

Well, he says himself that it's the O-line; but, then again, he's one of those poetic, full-of-crap, nice people , so ya gotta pay him Rick!!!


It's the O-line that makes da holes and stretches out dee D-Line, but it's Foster that makes the first guy miss every time, whether it's 10 yards down za field or in da backs-field. They jus' miss. Whoops...


Ya gotta pays tha Fosta, Ricks.
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Never pay a running back defensive end/outside linebacker money. You were joking right?
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Pay Arian his damn money. They have already got him on the cheap for 2 yrs. Franchise Mario making next year a contract year for him.

And if they need to find money to pay Foster, why not release that pile of dog crap named Jacoby Jones. #soft
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Someone photoshop Chris Farley from the Hurlihy Boy SNL skit yelling next to Arian, "Just pay the boy, Rick!"
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Default Pay arian foster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont care if he's a Restricted Free Agent, dont Low Ball him Rick/Bob, Pay him!! if nothing else, he's earned it!! hands down....
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Arian gets RFA tender of a 1st and 3rd for 3.3 million. Book it. Arian's payday will come in 2013.
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Default Re: Pay Foster now.

This won't be popular but.. he's earned his money, but in reality we can't afford to be the farm on him. We have a lot of people that make up the team, spending upwards of 5-10% on a single player just cause other teams are stupid to pay that kind of money is not good business IMHO.

- we have depth at RB with Tate and Ward.
- we have to lock in Chris Myers as well..
- the team is going to have to stick together and if people are out to make the most money they can I think they'll be shown the door.

The ZBAS has a history of making RB's big money only to faulter out on other teams, or lost to injury.

Year Running Back Yards
1996 Davis 1538
1997 Davis 1750
1998 Davis 2008
1999 Gary 1159
2000 Anderson 1487
2002 Portis 1508
2003 Portis 1591
2004 Droughns 1240

- Davis blew out both his knees retired.
- Andreson blew out both his groins.. retired basically after that.
- Portis two great years, then only one after that with redskins, retired..
- Droughns.. went to cleveland.. 1 year done..

These are the other guys we must at least think about resigning..

RB Arian Foster RFA Houston Texans Free Agent
RB Derrick Ward UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
TE Joel Dreessen UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
PK Neil Rackers UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
C Chris Myers UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
LB Mario Williams UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
CB Jason Allen UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
SS Dominique Barber UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
SS Quintin Demps UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
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- Andreson blew out both his groins.. retired basically after that.
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Arian gets RFA tender of a 1st and 3rd for 3.3 million. Book it. Arian's payday will come in 2013.
AJ's contract had years left on it but we went ahead and renewed him because of his work ethic and his importance to the team. We could easily have kept him on at the contract that he had, but he had outplayed it and deserved a new one.

If Arian doesn't get treated similarly then the FO isn't being consistent. He has outplayed his deal and he has outplayed 3.3 million 1 year
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Mike Brisiel is also a free agent this year. I expect him to be re-signed on the cheap, unless Denver or Washington try to outbid us for him.
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Arian gets RFA tender of a 1st and 3rd for 3.3 million. Book it. Arian's payday will come in 2013.
3.5 - 5 million a year we could do.. If people are expecting him to get paid something like CJ/Peterson got then don't hold you breath. Look at both teams now with their RB's after they were paid..

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not to be an ass but is it the system or him? when you say pay him how much? i like foster but what is the price?
It is him. Also, the oline is one of the best units in the game today. But make no mistake, it is Arian Foster. He is a restricted FA so we will tender him with a 1st and 3rd. Then the market will dictate his value. We have the right to match any deal that he accepts from a different team. If we dont, we get their 1st and 3rd.

Just hope a team doesnt use a poison pill tactic against us.
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AJ's contract had years left on it but we went ahead and renewed him because of his work ethic and his importance to the team. We could easily have kept him on at the contract that he had, but he had outplayed it and deserved a new one.

If Arian doesn't get treated similarly then the FO isn't being consistent. He has outplayed his deal and he has outplayed 3.3 million 1 year
But it's the smart business decision. Rick Smith isn't stupid, he knows the short lifespan of RBs, and Foster is no future hall of fame-r like AJ. They aren't comparable. AJ spent 8 years on this team before getting re-upped for a ton of money, Arian has been her all of 2.5 years. Unless he forces their hand, I don't think Arian gets a big deal until next year. 3.3 million isn't chump change after making 400-600k the last couple seasons.
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But it's the smart business decision. Rick Smith isn't stupid, he knows the short lifespan of RBs, and Foster is no future hall of fame-r like AJ. They aren't comparable. AJ spent 8 years on this team before getting re-upped for a ton of money, Arian has been her all of 2.5 years. Unless he forces their hand, I don't think Arian gets a big deal until next year. 3.3 million isn't chump change after making 400-600k the last couple seasons.
Ummm AJ has been getting pay days basically every 3. Got a 6 year deal in 2003, another 6 year deal in 2007, and extension in 2010.

Also, some might disagree with you that Foster is not capable of making the HOF.

Arian will get paid this offseason. We will have to either sign him to a multi-year deal, or match a multi-year deal another team offers him. 2012 is his payday year.
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But it's the smart business decision. Rick Smith isn't stupid, he knows the short lifespan of RBs, and Foster is no future hall of fame-r like AJ. They aren't comparable. AJ spent 8 years on this team before getting re-upped for a ton of money, Arian has been her all of 2.5 years. Unless he forces their hand, I don't think Arian gets a big deal until next year. 3.3 million isn't chump change after making 400-600k the last couple seasons.
thank you, that is what worries me the most. This may be the best path to go.
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What I would personally like to see is a 4 year contract that pays 3-4 million a year with incentives/rewards to bump up his pay to the highest paid RB depending on his performance. For instance, if he gets X amount games where he rushes 100 yard and Y amount for rushing over 1K yards for the year. Then you can also have opportunities for playoff bonuses that end up paying him even more. Foster may want more upfront guarantee however, given the short lifespan of RB's which is also understandable.

For those who are saying that we could let go of Foster and ride Tate and Ward, but honestly I do not agree with that. Foster, unlike Tate, is a complete back. That means he will always be there as a big time playmaker available for a check down and the opportunity to change that desperation check down to 10-20 yards. That would be such a huge yet underrated weapon for any QB at the center to have.
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Ummm AJ has been getting pay days basically every 3. Got a 6 year deal in 2003, another 6 year deal in 2007, and extension in 2010.

Also, some might disagree with you that Foster is not capable of making the HOF.

Arian will get paid this offseason. We will have to either sign him to a multi-year deal, or match a multi-year deal another team offers him. 2012 is his payday year.
AJ's deal in 2007 was so bad that they had to come back and renegotiate it in 2010. His brother or cousin or someone related was his 'agent' and negotiated a poor deal and Rick Smith took advantage. AJ got rid of that guy and got Mario's agent, then got his new deal after a 1500 yard season.

Arian's had two great seasons now, but there's no reason to spend 9 dollars on him if you can keep him working for $3.30-ish. If he's a future hall of fame-r then it won't matter whether or not you lock him down in 2012 or 2013, but you mitigate your risk by waiting one more season.
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I wanted to cry seeing the devastation he was feeling. He wanted this for the TEAM so badly, you could see it.
Yeh, when he was on the side line near the end zone away from everyone, I was worried about what was going through his mind.
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someone will pay him if they try to low ball him...I think someone will push the cost on him...I have a feeling with the appeal he has, NY Jets might try to grab him...especially to help out that organization now...but either way, paying him 3.3 wont work...it may be the first offer, but some team will laugh at that, gladly trade away their 1st and 3rd for a decent 20 mil guaranteed...it'll suck for Houston if that happens...
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