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Old 01-15-2012   #41
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What I wonder: Why doesn’t Kareem Jackson turn his head or play the ball? A couple of completions from Flacco to Anquan Boldin came on excellent throws into small windows with Jackson in close coverage. If he’d turned as the ball arrived, he’d have had chances to break up a play.
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Jacoby is too inconsistent with ball security. He makes bad decisions/risks that are unwarranted. His problems have plagued him since rookie season, had some highlights, overall not a terrible pick, but time has come to move on. Might as well throw last standing positional coach Joe Marciano under bus too, he allowed Jones to continually hurt Texans special teams without making adjustment. Guilt by association.

Jacoby just signed a three-year, $10.5 million contract. The deal contains $3 million guaranteed. 2011-2013: Under Contract, 2014: Free Agent

Kareem Jackson, first round pick, so was Travis Johnson & Amobi Okoye. Win some loss some, nobody's perfect not blaming Smith or Texans it happens. Kareem lacks confidence even with adequate safety back-up in a good defensive scheme. Lacks foot-speed & ball skills. Takes questionable angles, lacks make-up speed, rarely makes play on the ball. A nickle cover cb at best, McCain is actually much better despite size, better speed & ball hawking skills.

Kareem is due $700,000, in 2012 & $995,000 in 2013. 2014 is option year $1.29 million, 2015 he is a Free Agent
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I'm one of KJ's biggest supporters, I think he's growing as a player. I was pretty encouraged by seeing him turn his head, even slightly, but he NEEDS to improve in that aspect.

I understand where people are coming from blaming him. There were two circus catches on him where he barely got his head around just enough to disrupt, but not prevent the catch. Had he had Allen's ball skills, they may have been completely broken up, and one of them was probably an interception. Nevertheless, there is definite growth, hopefully he continues to improve as a player.

People who are blaming KJ for this loss are just looking for a scapegoat and KJ is the easiest target (usually).
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I still really believe KJ is a keeper. He still has some improving to do, but he really has a shot at being the #2 corner on this team for a long time to come.
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This has to be the only thread I have ever seen on here that I do not consider an extreme reaction thread. I approve of these moves.
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You don't release KJ, you let him play out his contract and tell him he needs to earn his next one.
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You don't release KJ, you let him play out his contract and tell him he needs to earn his next one.
You know how players that have supposedly out-performed their contracts hold out for a renegotiated contract? The Texans need to hold out on KJ. He's under-performed his first round contract.
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You know how players that have supposedly out-performed their contracts hold out for a renegotiated contract? The Texans need to hold out on KJ. He's under-performed his first round contract.
Rookie contracts aren't that draining to the salary cap. When I said have him play out his contract to earn a new one, I really meant, earn a new contract with a different team in Free Agency. If he holds out let him, If we can trade him towards the end of his contract to a team that does want to pay him money, even better. There is no reason what-so-ever right now to cut him.

Are we going to have better CB's on the roster as they all develope, Very Likely. Should we throw away a commodity and depth just because he had a horrid rookie season. No.
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Default Re: Jacoby Jones and Kareem Jackson are HISTORY

I'm disappointed in Jackson's progress, but you hold onto him for now. Give him a 3rd year to see if he can develop further. He's obviously struggling with the adjustment, but he won't be a defense killer next year despite being the weakest link.

Cut Jones.
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Let's make this a Kareem Jackson only thread.

My opinion? Kareem will be back, but will have to compete for his starting spot.
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My opinion? Kareem will be back, but will have to compete for his starting spot.
I agree he will be here but I hope he doesn't win the starting spot. If he does I may not make it through the whole season
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I agree he will be here but I hope he doesn't win the starting spot. If he does I may not make it through the whole season
Why not root for the young player who we have some investment in to make another stride of improvement and solidify himself as the clear #2?
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Because he hates first round picks. Next season he will start his campaign against Cushing, then after that Watt
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Rookie contracts aren't that draining to the salary cap. When I said have him play out his contract to earn a new one, I really meant, earn a new contract with a different team in Free Agency. If he holds out let him, If we can trade him towards the end of his contract to a team that does want to pay him money, even better. There is no reason what-so-ever right now to cut him.

Are we going to have better CB's on the roster as they all develope, Very Likely. Should we throw away a commodity and depth just because he had a horrid rookie season. No.
Under the old CBA, 1st rounders, especially top 10 picks, were VERY draining on the cap. The new CBA is much more friendly regarding rookie contracts.
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I really don't see how people can be down on the guy. The only reason he didn't meet expectations were because we expected him to be a pro-bowler in his first year. The reality is that going into his third year he has made some decent progress and with a few improvements can have a place in this league for a long time.

He may never be a #1 corner, and he may never make a pro bowl, but he has been a contributor on a damn good defense all year long. I have no issues with that at all.
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He may never be a #1 corner, and he may never make a pro bowl, but he has been a contributor on a damn good defense all year long. I have no issues with that at all.
You could also say that Jackson benefited from playing behind a very good defense and having a Pro Bowl corner opposite. While he's no longer losing games, I still think the #2 CB spot is the weak link of the defense.
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he'd be a decent nickel corner but i'd still look for a true 2nd corner.
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Under the old CBA, 1st rounders, especially top 10 picks, were VERY draining on the cap. The new CBA is much more friendly regarding rookie contracts.
KJ got almost 14 mil over 5 years. With a huge chunk of that at 10 mil gaurunteed. It will cost more to cut him early than to keep him in his rookie contract. This was only year 2 of his contract, 3 more to go, 2 more before you start making decision of whether he stays or goes unless he regresses back to his rookie play level
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I really don't see how people can be down on the guy. The only reason he didn't meet expectations were because we expected him to be a pro-bowler in his first year. The reality is that going into his third year he has made some decent progress and with a few improvements can have a place in this league for a long time.

He may never be a #1 corner, and he may never make a pro bowl, but he has been a contributor on a damn good defense all year long. I have no issues with that at all.
KJ got better as the season went along, but the bar wasn't set very high for him, either. It would've been damned near impossible for him not to show some improvement over last season. He's still not in the same hemisphere with a shutdown type CB and probably never will be. We're all sitting here getting all excited because he actually turned his head and looked for the ball today. That's a WOW occassion for KJ. Not so much for good to better CBs' in the league.
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