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Old 01-01-2012   #21
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Is a banged up Yates better than a healthy Delhomme? Thats what we need to figure out....
The great thing about the Titans game was that we got to actually see Jake as opposed to just wondering what could do.

I can safely say - no, an injured rookie is not a better bet than this healthy, experienced for Super Bowl QB.
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Delhomme hung in a pocket unlike the old Delhomme would. My memories of old Delhomme was a guy always running around and getting into trouble with bad decisions. Erratic.

I saw a Delhomme today who looked pretty dang good all things considered. Most of his throws were tight and in the right spot, a few were high, but overall he made all throws...something Leinart was NOT doing.

Would Kubiak consider yanking Yates if he's struggling in the playoff game? I would heavily consider it based on TODAY'S Delhomme. Not stirring a pot, just saying today's Delhomme was adequate enough to be an option if Yates bogs down bad enough to warrant a switch.
I will have to disagree with this.

The old saying is true, if your stupid today you will be stupid tomorrow, meaning you are who you are. He is a turnover waiting to happen. He is in talks with Hostess about rolling out his own line of turnovers with his name on it.

He is so bad he makes Rosencopter look like the pinnacle for ball security.
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I'm more worried about the Bengals pass rush than I was about the Titans pass rush. Yates has turtled some, but Delhomme has a history of becoming erratic in the playoffs. Yates probably doesn't have the accuracy that Delhomme has on the deep ball, but Yates has proven he can beat the Bengals.

I agree that it's a toss up, but I say you start Yates, and if things aren't looking good, you bring in Delhomme, but Yates has more time in the system
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I will have to disagree with this.

The old saying is true, if your stupid today you will be stupid tomorrow, meaning you are who you are. He is a turnover waiting to happen. He is in talks with Hostess about rolling out his own line of turnovers with his name on it.

He is so bad he makes Rosencopter look like the pinnacle for ball security.
So there's no point in the school system?
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well, crap. We need an endless supply of qbs.
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Default Re: MarkBerman -- TJ Yates suffered an AC joint separation in his left shoulder

Yates was on the sideline moving around freely with no restraint on his non throwing arm congratulating people when plays were made etc/etc.. I think this is much to do about nothing.
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Default Re: MarkBerman -- TJ Yates suffered an AC joint separation in his left shoulder

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I will have to disagree with this.

The old saying is true, if your stupid today you will be stupid tomorrow, meaning you are who you are. He is a turnover waiting to happen. He is in talks with Hostess about rolling out his own line of turnovers with his name on it.

He is so bad he makes Rosencopter look like the pinnacle for ball security.
I really have a hard time with this assumption. Are you comparing the 2011 Texans to the 2010 Browns?

Are you saying that someone who throws many INT's behind a line that was one of the worst in the league would also throw the same INT's behind one of the best lines in the league?

The situation, personnel, etc were all different and to say Delhomme is what he was when he played for the Browns is a bit unfair and biased.

I like Yates and commend him for what he has accomplished, but on a treacherous mountain road, (the playoffs) I would rather have an experienced bus driver who knows the route inside and out, even if he does have a few fender benders, than a wounded rookie on his first trip.

If you take the wait and see approach, the bus may already be off the cliff.
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We should postpone the future and rely on the past
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Hey TJ you have a tear...go into the locker room and then come out looking like something is wrong with your shoulder still. We're gonna let Jake play out the game to get some snaps. This way whoever we plays has to watch film on him and you. Good job today kid.
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The great thing about the Titans game was that we got to actually see Jake as opposed to just wondering what could do.

I can safely say - no, an injured rookie is not a better bet than this healthy, experienced for Super Bowl QB.
Don't forget how good Yates looked on that 1st drive.

Did you notice the rather exotic play selection of the 1st drive? I think the biggest issue is that the Texans offense can do much more with Yates because he has been in the system much longer. If you noticed, the running game got simpler when Delhomme entered the game. Also, I think simply managing a huddle is difficult for Delhomme because of his unfamiliarity with the West Coast language.
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Hey TJ you have a tear...go into the locker room and then come out looking like something is wrong with your shoulder still. We're gonna let Jake play out the game to get some snaps. This way whoever we plays has to watch film on him and you. Good job today kid.
I was coming here to post something similar to this. I think it was just a perfect excuse to give Jake some reps in a real game without taking away from TJ's confidence on Saturday.
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I saw TJ throwing warmups prior to the 2nd half. He had a lot of steam on the ball. I think he'll be fine and should get the start. I think Delhomme is still rusty, inaccurate, and possibly less athletic than Schaub. Gotta go with the kid.
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Delhome sucks. He sucks so bad the Browns dumped his ass and he was pig farming a few weeks ago.

Was Reliant built on an ancient Indian burial ground? This is insane that year in and year out we have so many injuries. I think the curse lies next door. It's time to blow up the Astrodome.
I agree. Level the Dome. Let the spirits return to rest next to, not under us.
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I saw TJ throwing warmups prior to the 2nd half. He had a lot of steam on the ball. I think he'll be fine and should get the start. I think Delhomme is still rusty, inaccurate, and possibly less athletic than Schaub. Gotta go with the kid.
And besides, it gives you another bullet in your gun in the event Yates is having an off day. Vet to the rescue. Unless the opponent is just rolling in which case it's vet to the sacrifice.
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Hey TJ you have a tear...go into the locker room and then come out looking like something is wrong with your shoulder still. We're gonna let Jake play out the game to get some snaps. This way whoever we plays has to watch film on him and you. Good job today kid.
Most likely scenario, IMO.

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