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GP · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by Wolf

Wade played vanilla defense also.. not much scheming to show on game film

I have to say this: Bengals have 15 other games of film on us.

Today would not factor one way or another.

I wonder if Wade stays in booth next week, or goes sideline?

bckey · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by GP

Agree with EVERYTHING but the last line...because Kubiak is getting dynasty-type extension in this off-season. No doubt about it. He will.

After 6 years Kubiak is 47W and 49L.

GP · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by bckey

After 6 years Kubiak is 47W and 49L.

Sure.

But he's getting a new contract, so you know it will be a good, long contract.

Anybody thinking there's some sort of possibility McNair goes in a different direction is fooling themselves. Everyone here knows Kubiak is getting another 4 or 5 years.

The "dynasty" comment meant McNair views this as a prudent move as it relates to creating an image and stable future for the team.

Wade Phillips is a HUGE factor, though. He's the cog in the machine that sparked this season's playoff chances.

**Kimmy** · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by GP

Sure.

But he's getting a new contract, so you know it will be a good, long contract.

Anybody thinking there's some sort of possibility McNair goes in a different direction is fooling themselves. Everyone here knows Kubiak is getting another 4 or 5 years.

That makes me sick to my stomach

GP · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by Kimmy

That makes me sick to my stomach

My take on it, or that it's inevitable that GK is going to be here no matter what?

I have mixed feelings. How can McNair even think about "going fishing" for a new HC? Wade Phillips turning the defense around was THE saving grace for GK.

**Kimmy** · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by GP

My take on it, or that it's inevitable that GK is going to be here no matter what?

I have mixed feelings. How can McNair even think about "going fishing" for a new HC? Wade Phillips turning the defense around was THE saving grace for GK.

That he is going to be here that long. I have wanted him gone for three years now.

GP · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by Kimmy

That he is going to be here that long. I have wanted him gone for three years now.

Wade Phillips is to blame.

Wade should receive a white envelope from Kubiak that contains lots of cash.

Without a top defense, this team is last year's Texans. Period.

**Kimmy** · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by GP

Wade Phillips is to blame.

Wade should receive a white envelope from Kubiak that contains lots of cash.

Without a top defense, this team is last year's Texans. Period.

I don't want Wade as HC, either.

I know, can't please everyone :/

TheMatrix31 · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by GP

Wade Phillips is to blame.

Wade should receive a white envelope from Kubiak that contains lots of cash.

Without a top defense, this team is last year's Texans. Period.

You don't think Kubiak and the offensive coaches deserve even the teeeeeeeeeeensiest amount of credit for coaching through Schaub/Leinart/Andre/Foster/Tate/Ward/Casey/Vickers/Hartmann/Brisel injuries?

**utahmark** · 01-01-2012

Was this really a thread. We should risk hurting our chances to win a playoff game to try and win(what was for us) a preseason game. Now thats looking at the big picture.

GP · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

You don't think Kubiak and the offensive coaches deserve even the teeeeeeeeeeensiest amount of credit for coaching through Schaub/Leinart/Andre/Foster/Tate/Ward/Casey/Vickers/Hartmann/Brisel injuries?

Without a sound and credible d-coord in Wade Phillips, you prove my point with that post.

Plus, Wade came in on a lockout year. Worst defense the year prior. Top 3 defense his first year.

Without a great defense SYSTEM and better players, ones that Wade shopped for by the way, then I stand by my post.

It takes a team, and Wade's arrival created that TEAM. Previous years were marked by Kubiak's handling of d-coordinators. We were not a team, it was a one-legged man in a butt-kicking contest.

Hey, GK is the head coach. The whole show is HIS show. He gets to own this season, but he also owns all years prior too.

No reason we can't be adults and recognize that Wade Phillips' crew has by and large been the "it" factor. Wouldn't want him as HC, though.

**EllisUnit** · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by GP

Wade Phillips is to blame.

Wade should receive a white envelope from Kubiak that contains lots of cash.

Without a top defense, this team is last year's Texans. Period.

i dont agree with that, we had a rookie in KJ and a second year CB in Quin, and then we had Wilson and Pollard at safety, say what you want but that is not a combination for success regardless of who you are. We now have Manning and JoJo which has made a dramatic difference.

You cant look at this season and not give kubiak some credit, Wade has lost Mario thats it, Kubiak has lost, Foster, Tate, Schaub, Leinart, AJ, Casey, Brisel. Now to me for us to still be 10-6 with all that has happened, despite all the offensive injuries kubiak still deserves some credit.

What kind of record do you think this team would have with the #3 ranked defense and #31 ranked offense, prob a lot worse than 10-6

**SheTexan** · 01-01-2012

GP! Wish I could rep you for your post throughout this thread, but, must spread rep first!

#1 You play a GAME to WIN!! PERIOD!! It's that simple!!

#2 Fans pay BIGASS bucks to see their team WIN, esp against a division rival with possible playoff potential.

#3 Sitting your starters is CHEATING the fans!! I paid pretty close to $700 to watch crap football today, and I didn't appreciate that one damn bit!! If you have to lose a game, then lose it honestly!!

#4 It's a GAME of football, and with that comes injuries, etc. That's just the way the game is played. Take it in the gut and keep on playin!! If you all think six days is enough to REST those guys then you are all delusional!!

We are playing with a 3rd, and probably 4th string QB!! For gawds sake!! WHY can't you guys understand they need PRACTICE with the FIRST string if we have any chance in hell of winning in the playoffs!! I simply DO NOT understand this attitude that it's OK to rest your starters!! It's a game of football, not Daddy Daycare!!!

wildroot · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

You don't think Kubiak and the offensive coaches deserve even the teeeeeeeeeeensiest amount of credit for coaching through Schaub/Leinart/Andre/Foster/Tate/Ward/Casey/Vickers/Hartmann/Brisel injuries?

.500 ball since Schaub went down....nothing to write home about.

gary · 01-01-2012

Aren't the players paid to win football games? It is that simple for me.

**EllisUnit** · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by wildroot

.500 ball since Schaub went down....nothing to write home about.

i'm sorry but its hard to shot a gun with the wrong bullets. You can do it but the results may not be what u'd like. i hope you understand that.

clutch · 01-01-2012

The only people that should be mad are me and the 71000 plus that were at the game...really would have liked a win...

wildroot · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by SheTexan

GP! Wish I could rep you for your post throughout this thread, but, must spread rep first!

#1 You play a GAME to WIN!! PERIOD!! It's that simple!!

#2 Fans pay BIGASS bucks to see their team WIN, esp against a division rival with possible playoff potential.

#3 Sitting your starters is CHEATING the fans!! I paid pretty close to $700 to watch crap football today, and I didn't appreciate that one damn bit!! If you have to lose a game, then lose it honestly!!

#4 It's a GAME of football, and with that comes injuries, etc. That's just the way the game is played. Take it in the gut and keep on playin!! If you all think six days is enough to REST those guys then you are all delusional!!

We are playing with a 3rd, and probably 4th string QB!! For gawds sake!! WHY can't you guys understand they need PRACTICE with the FIRST string if we have any chance in hell of winning in the playoffs!! I simply DO NOT understand this attitude that it's OK to rest your starters!! It's a game of football, not Daddy Daycare!!!

Probably the people that are defending Kubiak for resting the starters are the same ones that were going balistic 2 years ago when teams were resting their starters during the final week that kept us on the outside with our noses pressed up against the glass.

**EllisUnit** · 01-01-2012

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Originally Posted by gary

Aren't the players paid to win football games? It is that simple for me.

lawyers and judges and juriors are paid to put away the criminal and free the innocent, that works so well, ask Casey Anthony...

Yeah Gary i agree, all these guys are pros rather they are 1st or 3rd string, but the talent does have a big drop off.

Maddict5 · 01-01-2012

so we make the playoffs and people are still bitching?

i thought we said that once we started winning we wouldnt be such whiny mf'ers.

my thoughts on the game: we were back to our best today. running game killing it, qb making the throws he needs to and good pass rush. we play our starters we kill the titans like in week 7. this team had the look back and ive no doubt we win next week once we keep green in check

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utahmark markbeth Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: utah Age: 43 Posts: 1,914 Rep Power: 5935	Re: Why People Are Angry That We Rested Our Starters? Was this really a thread. We should risk hurting our chances to win a playoff game to try and win(what was for us) a preseason game. Now thats looking at the big picture. __________________ formally known as markbeth

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gary Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North Pole Age: 20 Posts: 20,391 Rep Power: 16625	Re: Why People Are Angry That We Rested Our Starters? Aren't the players paid to win football games? It is that simple for me. __________________ Without the strength to endure the crisis, one will not see the opportunity within. It is within the process of endurance that opportunity reveals itself. Chin-Ning Chu -

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clutch Rookie Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 78 Rep Power: 33	Re: Why People Are Angry That We Rested Our Starters? The only people that should be mad are me and the 71000 plus that were at the game...really would have liked a win...

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Maddict5 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,460 Rep Power: 5499	Re: Why People Are Angry That We Rested Our Starters? so we make the playoffs and people are still bitching? i thought we said that once we started winning we wouldnt be such whiny mf'ers. my thoughts on the game: we were back to our best today. running game killing it, qb making the throws he needs to and good pass rush. we play our starters we kill the titans like in week 7. this team had the look back and ive no doubt we win next week once we keep green in check

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