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Old 01-01-2012   #41
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They are going to replace the field from end line to end line, between the college hash marks. That was decided long ago. Rest easy.
FWIW, Wes Welker's injury occurred outside the hash marks.
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Although "between the hash marks" tends to be the areas classically most torn up, as you can see below, it represents a relatively small area of replacement.


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Obviously, they can't, and the Rodeo is equally as important a tenant.
I don't get it. The Dome is where the Rodeo used to be before Reliant was even thought about. Must be some funny politics to this situation.

But based on what CnnnD said, there are technical answers to this situation. Like putting Field Turf down and then laying the non-football surfaces on top of it when required. You're telling me that the Space and Energy capital of America doesn't have the engineering smarts to figure this out??

Or is this more ammo for the "McNair is cheap" crowd?
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Although "between the hash marks" tends to be the areas classically most torn up, as you can see below, it represents a relatively small area of replacement.


You need a diagram for the college field. Their hashmarks are closer to the sidelines. Hence, more field to replace.
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I certianly wouldn't wouldn't play AJ on that field that I saw yesterday.
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I certianly wouldn't wouldn't play AJ on that field that I saw yesterday.
FYI. In both of AJ's hamstring injuries, he came up lame OUTSIDE the harsh marks.
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FYI. In both of AJ's hamstring injuries, he came up lame OUTSIDE the harsh marks.
Are you saying A.J.'s hammy injuries were related to the field? It didn't seem that way when he went down. It looked, to me, like his body failed him. He didn't trip. He didn't slip down and hyper-extend anything, his body parts gave out.
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You need a diagram for the college field. Their hashmarks are closer to the sidelines. Hence, more field to replace.
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Are you saying A.J.'s hammy injuries were related to the field? It didn't seem that way when he went down. It looked, to me, like his body failed him. He didn't trip. He didn't slip down and hyper-extend anything, his body parts gave out.
Can't really tell you that did or didn't have anything to do with it. Only AJ would be able to comment on that.. Just thought it was interesting.
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doesnt look terrible

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doesnt look terrible

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Every year we say this and nothing changes and I can't figure out why that is. It's not like players haven't been hurt on this field already (Welker comes to mind) and we all saw Cushing do that weird twist a few weeks ago. How many people were holding their breath when he went down?
I for one nearly passed out when Cushing went down and then into the locker room. To see him return to the field was a huge relief.

I know they can go to longer cleats after a little warm up action. Why don't they seem to make that adjustment when the field is slippery like that?
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It's not adaptable for other events at Reliant including the Rodeo and monster truck. Won't happen.
Not true. Cowboys Stadium has Field Turf and they host a ton of other events there. It can happen at Reliant. They need to $$ up and change that crappy field already. We've had enough phantom injuries on that field.
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I for one nearly passed out when Cushing went down and then into the locker room. To see him return to the field was a huge relief.

I know they can go to longer cleats after a little warm up action. Why don't they seem to make that adjustment when the field is slippery like that?
There is a difference between a "slippery" field and a torn up field. Shorter studs can be used for hard and dry surfaces and longer studs on wet and sloppy fields. But when some of the field is different that another portion of the field (as is the case with a torn up field), then one length of cleat is not optimal for all of the different conditions found on the same field.
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FWIW, Wes Welker's injury occurred outside the hash marks.

Exactly. This would make sense if they played the entire game between the hash marks but they don't. If anything it would make me wonder what it must be like to run on solid turf and then transition to the spongy mess left over from the bowl game.

The tray system does not work. That seems obvious to me at this point. They need to either modify how they're doing it or find an entirely different answer to this problem.
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The architects miscalculated the orientation of the stadium and configuration of the stadium (too vertical) when taking into account the necessary angle of sunlight entry with time of sun exposure to the field per day (even during clement weather). The pallet replacement was never meant to there for replacement of poorly growing or naturally dying grass........it was originally meant to be there for pallet replacement of specific areas that were torn up during play (a concept which has introduced its own unique problems).
Makes sense. Pretty crappy.
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Not true. Cowboys Stadium has Field Turf and they host a ton of other events there. It can happen at Reliant. They need to $$ up and change that crappy field already. We've had enough phantom injuries on that field.
Small high schools in West Texas have a field turf system.

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It's not adaptable for other events at Reliant including the Rodeo and monster truck. Won't happen.
I wonder how they do it at the Alamodome, they have both of those events there. I think the SA rodeo is before the Houston one, and they also host other events like concers, monster trucks, and supercross.
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I wonder how they do it at the Alamodome, they have both of those events there. I think the SA rodeo is before the Houston one, and they also host other events like concers, monster trucks, and supercross.

I knew they used the new zippered AstroTurf....found a description of the process:


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The Alamodome is designed to meet the specific needs of a minimum of 24 different events and can accommodate small, medium or large groups. From football to ice skating; trade shows to conventions; rock concerts to classical performances, the Dome is the ideal venue for any event.

The Alamodome's artificial turf comes in 28 sections that weigh 3,500 pounds apiece. A 175,000 machine called a grasshopper will roll out the turf and then pick it up. Once in place, the turf sections will be seamed together with zippers.

Astroturf is used in approximately nine other domed stadiums and 11 indoor facilities in the United States.

The turf consists of a knitted nylon ribbon pile and synthetic fiber backing which is adhered to a cushioned underpad. The half-inch pile height gives the appearance of freshly mown natural grass.

The stadium surface is designed for a variety of athletic and recreational uses including football, soccer, lacrosse, field hockey, rugby, physical education activities, marching band and military drills.

The turf's non-directional grain provides a uniform playing surface that produces ball roll that is consistent in all directions with excellent bounce and roll characteristics which is suitable for any sport.

The turf in the Alamodome has served as the playing field for many professional and college football games.
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