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Old 12-27-2011   #21
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OLB Barwin, LT D. Brown, ILB Cushing, TE Daniels, WR A. Johnson, KR J. Jones, C Myers, DE A. Smith, DE Watt
Hope they come out Sunday with a chip on their shoulders and destroy the damn Titans and keep that grudge through out the playoffs.
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No worries lets focus on the playoffs baby!!!!
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Let's all address the elephant in the room.

Jacoby Jones, KR, as an alternate, do they even watch games?
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Lame. Cush and Duane both deserve starting spots. I would have liked to have seen Barwin go too, he's really exceeded expectations this year (46 tackles, 11.5 sacks, 7 passes defended, and 1 FF). Then again, the "Pro Bowl" is not an "All-Pro" game - it's just a popularity contest.
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Lewis has missed a few games. Cushing has 111 tackles vs Lewis' 88. Cushing has 2 more sacks. Cushing has 1 more interception. East coast media bias strikes again.
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I felt worst of all for Myers & Brown. Wonder if they could have been hurt by our ZB schemes which features the infamous cut-blocs ? Though of course they are legal, lots of NFL players have problems with that blocking technique and it remains very controversial among many of those players.
Neither Brown or Myers do a lot of cut blocking.

Brown usually mauls his man, front or backside. Chris is usually in the second level smacking LBs around.
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Hope they come out Sunday with a chip on their shoulders and destroy the damn Titans and keep that grudge through out the playoffs.
You beat me to it.
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I'd give anything to see the voting totals for the players & coachs ? I don't mean how individuals voted, but how many votes the top 3 or 5 players got per coach/player voting #s ?
And BTW as a person who doesn't particularly like UT because they basically wrecked the Big 12 by themselves IMO, I was still gratified to see former UT LB Derrick Johnson make the Pro Bowl squad. Got to see him a few times on national TV this year and he was exceptional. He was very deserving.
For the Texans, Myers really got the shaft, but it doesn't surprise me. I'm looking forward to the All-Pro teams voting ?
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Chill out guys, there will be no Texans playing in this years ProBowl anyway #goingalltheway
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My issue with Winston is the number of penalities he draws, and the fact that he is suppose to protect his QB, and I don't think he's done a good job at that. He's to slow, lets to many guys beat him, and our QBs have paid the price.
I don't think it's that he's too slow, I think it's that his arms are too short.

I still think if they could find a viable replacement (Butler?) he would be a beast of a guard.

On topic, I agree with the consensus that Brown, Myers, and Cushing were blatant snubs. And, on the other side of the coin, AJ was undeservedly voted in.
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Let's all address the elephant in the room.

Jacoby Jones, KR, as an alternate, do they even watch games?
Not to defend Jacoby but who else in the AFC had a halfway decent return guy. They're all in the NFC.
Even Josh Cribbs had an off year as a return guy. I guess they could have voted him in (Cribbs) on rep alone....
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My issue with Winston is the number of penalities he draws, and the fact that he is suppose to protect his QB, and I don't think he's done a good job at that. He's to slow, lets to many guys beat him, and our QBs have paid the price.
I understand about the penalties, but consider the Texans are ranked #2 with rushes to the right side of 10+ yards (32x's). Your right tackle has a lot to do with that.
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I understand about the penalties, but consider the Texans are ranked #2 with rushes to the right side of 10+ yards (32x's). Your right tackle has a lot to do with that.
As does your right guard, which is where Winston should be playing.
Winston is a solid run-blocking OLineman, but not so much when it comes to pass-blocking which is very important for tackles, and not just left-tackles.
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Ray Lewis, the player, is no longer Pro Bowl worthy. Ray Lewis, the name, is obviously a Pro Bowler for life.

Pro Bowl voting should be taken out of the hands of the fans. Until then, the game will always be a joke. Most fans are clueless
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Not to defend Jacoby but who else in the AFC had a halfway decent return guy. They're all in the NFC.
Even Josh Cribbs had an off year as a return guy. I guess they could have voted him in (Cribbs) on rep alone....
I agree.
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Ray Lewis, the player, is no longer Pro Bowl worthy. Ray Lewis, the name, is obviously a Pro Bowler for life.

Pro Bowl voting should be taken out of the hands of the fans. Until then, the game will always be a joke. Most fans are clueless
He was great at one time, but these days Lewis is basically a legend in his own mind and nothing more.
It's gonna be real interesting to see how they handle him back in Baltimore as his presence on the field more and more becomes a liability to the defense, to the team ? I don't think he's the kind of guy who's going to adjust gracefully to accepting fewer snaps, let alone being replaced as a starter ?
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Duane Brown: Texans offensive line snubs a “slap in the face”

Every year, we re-learn how faulty the Pro Bowl voting process is.

Guys make the game on reputation like Cowboys defensive tackle Jay Ratliff and Dolphins tackle Jake Long. Other deserving young players have to wait their turn like 49ers linebacker Navorro Bowman.

Texans left tackle Duane Brown was one of the players that got overlooked because he doesn’t have a big name. He had a standout year and we’d argue that he was only one of three snubs on the Texans offensive line.

Chris Myers should have made it at center over Maurkice Pouncey. You could make a strong case*for right tackle Eric Winston and Brown over Long and the Jets’ D’Brickashaw Ferguson. Brown didn’t complain about his individual snub, and said he understood he hadn’t consistently had years this good in the past.

Still, he wasn’t pleased the entire group was overlooked.

“Definitely, it is a slap in the face,” Brown told Jerome Solomon of the Houston Chronicle. “I think we’re one of the best O-lines in the league, and for not one of us to make it says something. We already have a lot to prove, and this just adds to it.”

Brown and Myers were named as alternates. Winston congratulated them on Twitter without mentioning his snub.

He didn’t complain, so we will for him. Top to bottom, the Texans have the best line in the league.

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He was great at one time, but these days Lewis is basically a legend in his own mind and nothing more.
It's gonna be real interesting to see how they handle him back in Baltimore as his presence on the field more and more becomes a liability to the defense, to the team ? I don't think he's the kind of guy who's going to adjust gracefully to accepting fewer snaps, let alone being replaced as a starter ?
He's still a great player and highly productive on the field when he plays...he just didn't deserve to go to the pro bowl, because he was injured.

But in 11 games he still had 88 tackles, 2 sacks, 6 pdef, 1 INT, and 2 FF

You project those #s over a 16 game schedule and it's right there with his career averages and a pro bowl season.

The guy has no business playing in the pro bowl this season, but lets not shovel dirt on him already. He's still highly productive and still makes plays.
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Brown and Cushing should protest.
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Brown and Cushing should protest.
They should protest with their play on the field. By dominating the tacks and whoever they play in the playoffs will speak louder than words.
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