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Old 12-22-2011   #1
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Kubiak sucks as a HC. If the last 2 games plus the last 5 seasons have not proved that to some then I don't know what else to say.

What a joke, you can't beat a 1 win team when you are trying to win a bye?? Enjoy your "Division Champions" shirts and hats because it ain't getting no better than that.

Unfortunately Wade saved Kubiak's job and probably earned Kubiak a few more seasons while Wade goes somewhere else to turn another team around and we are stuck with this suckage.
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Can't they prop Wade up in the pressbox with an IV drip and let him call plays for Christ's sake.
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Default Re: No Wade no wins ...

No. Firepower.

Playcalling, regardless of what the players want to say, changes. Can't do what they want without AJ. Injuries are catching up.
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Nah, he won us 10 games.
Kubiak won us 10 games?? You really think so?
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Kubiak sucks as a HC. If the last 2 games plus the last 5 seasons have not proved that to some then I don't know what else to say.

What a joke, you can't beat a 1 win team when you are trying to win a bye?? Enjoy your "Division Champions" shirts and hats because it ain't getting no better than that.

Unfortunately Wade saved Kubiak's job and probably earned Kubiak a few more seasons while Wade goes somewhere else to turn another team around and we are stuck with this suckage.
Honestly, I think Uncle Bob is smart enough to see the writing on the wall. If Wade wants to be a head coach and we are one and done in the play offs with a 10-6 record...I think we say happy trails to Kubiak and give Wade the promotion. Which would tickle me sh!tless.
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Do you think it's fair to judge kube's offense with no AJ, no legit backup WR, and a 3rd string rookie QB? I don't.
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Do you think it's fair to judge kube's offense with no AJ, no legit backup WR, and a 3rd string rookie QB? I don't.
No, Kubiak is not just the OC, he is the HC. I think it is fair to judge the entire team and how they came out and "got beat by a girl" today.
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Do you think it's fair to judge kube's offense with no AJ, no legit backup WR, and a 3rd string rookie QB? I don't.
When said offense (spare the o-line) puts up a decent game in spite of asinine play calling, then yes it's absolutely fair.
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I think it's just that Wade and Kubiak push each other.

Together they are a hell of a duo I'd like to keep around quite frankly.

When Wade is out there holding teams under 17 points, it's on Kubiak to have his offense ready. How he called the game today...just didn't feel like how he called the game with Wade out there. I'm not sure why, I can't even explain why...so the only thing I Can come up with is Kubiak coaches harder when Wade's around because he knows Wade is a legit coach and is being pushed by Wade. If that even makes sense...
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Do you think it's fair to judge kube's offense with no AJ, no legit backup WR, and a 3rd string rookie QB? I don't.

The third string QB I'm willing to concede. Few indeed are the teams that could survive losing their first and second string QB.

The "no legit backup WR" is 100,000% Kubiak's fault. If we've got shit WR's past AJ that's on this regime (Gary/Rick). Other teams don't have nobody behind one star. Other teams go out and find legitimate WR's and load up. Legitimate WR's were available. We chose to keep Jacoby Jones and sign Bryant Johnson and Derrick Mason.

If the line falls apart when Brisiel goes down (like it did at times tonight with Caldwell in there) then I again place the blame for that at the feet of this coach and GM. Their team. They built it. They coach it. They should know what they have and if all they have is this then they're to blame.
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No, Kubiak is not just the OC, he is the HC. I think it is fair to judge the entire team and how they came out and "got beat by a girl" today.
All I'm saying is it is NOT fair to judge Kubes as a head coach, oc, or whatever title you feel fits - withOUT having his starting qb, leagues top receiver and yes as you've stated with no wade.
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All I'm saying is it is NOT fair to judge Kubes as a head coach, oc, or whatever title you feel fits - withOUT having his starting qb, leagues top receiver and yes as you've stated with no wade.
Dude had his freakin' starting QB and his top receiver for the last 5 years. What the hell did he do then???
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All I'm saying is it is NOT fair to judge Kubes as a head coach, oc, or whatever title you feel fits - withOUT having his starting qb, leagues top receiver and yes as you've stated with no wade.
Life isnīt fair. Itīs easy to accomplish things with optimum conditions. The defining moments all come when the going gets tough. When the going gets tough with Kubiak he Kubiaks it. Kubiaking is not a positive thing, but it foreshadows what is to come in the playoffs, because thats where the tough get going.
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He's listed a HC, yea?

Next to 10-5 for 2011-2012?

I mean you're listed as "Father" in your child birth certificate.. then again your wife might of cheated on you prior to being preggo, and it's really not your child but Jerome's.

Actually, I think I know what you're talking about now.
That's a shitty analogy.
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Pros:
RB
Backup RB
LG
Replace FB
Backup QBs (can't really argue with trust.. we don't know how differently he would treat his backup QB1 vs. Yates)
Bunch of defensive players that actually contributed under a good DC.. only JJ. Jojo, and Manning came in after Wade. Reed as well. Can't really give Wade all the credit here.. it could be Rick or Kubiaks as well.

Cons:
Shit ton of TEs, two that doesn't play/cut.
Bust DT with 10th overall pick
Kareem Jackson
With the amount of TE's he's drafted one would assume that the Texans would be running heavy sets all the time.
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Kubiak is the HC. Kubiak is put down in the books as the first HC to led us to the Playoffs/Division Champs. He's the one with a 10+ win in his record, not Wade.

And he'll be a minimum of 2 more year, regardless of what happen in the playoff because of it.

His name is on the paper.
That was the point I made when I started this thread. Kubiak will get the credit and the suckness will continue, especially if Wade leaves for a HC job.
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Dude had his freakin' starting QB and his top receiver for the last 5 years. What the hell did he do then???
I know the last couple it was not the O, it was the D and this year WP has proven that.
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Do you think it's fair to judge kube's offense with no AJ, no legit backup WR, and a 3rd string rookie QB? I don't.
I agree

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No. Firepower.

Playcalling, regardless of what the players want to say, changes. Can't do what they want without AJ. Injuries are catching up.
Did before Wades gallstones.
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That was the point I made when I started this thread. Kubiak will get the credit and the suckness will continue, especially if Wade leaves for a HC job.
This has been my fear since BoBBY retained Gary this offseason despite his past failures.

History tells us that if Gary gets an 3 extention BoBBy wont buy him out early if Gary continues to stink at his job. Which Gary will, if Wade takes a HC job somewhere next yr. IMHO
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