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Old 12-24-2011   #21
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And the same people would complain if he lets it loose and ignores a top 5 rushing game and a top 5 defense.

I'd trust the game to my running game and D before a 3rd string rookie QB. But that's just me.
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And the same people would complain if he lets it loose and ignores a top 5 rushing game and a top 5 defense.

I'd trust the game to my running game and D before a 3rd string rookie QB. But that's just me.
Who asked him to ignore the running game? I asked for balance. Or how about this? Just asking him NOT TO HAND IT OFF ON 3rd and 8.

Keep pumping out your excuses though.
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Fact Gary is a loser.

The only reason he has one this yr is because BoBBy forced Wade down his throat this offseason.

What's Garys record without Wade?

They were acting like they won the SB after a 9-7 season.

Now they're acting like they won a SB after they snuck into the playoffs in a truly putrid division.

Sad part is Wade will probably get a HC gig and Gary will get a 3 yr extention. The fans will be stuck with 3 more yrs of Gary ball. Because as it has been shown BoBBy will not buy out Garys extention regadless of how bad he stinks at his job.
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Refusing to throw the ball on 3rd and long (with the exception of a few dump routes) is on Kubiak. I don't know how anyone could argue that Kubiak called a good game. His poor adjustments and chickensh!t calls accomplished nothing but to make T.J. look bad (even though he went 13-16 (81.3% comp) for 132 yards (8.3 YPP) making a 101.0 QB rating).

Furthermore, how do you let Herring put KJ in man coverage on Reggie Wayne? You give Wade benefit of the doubt in those situations, not Herring. Before the snap he should have called timeout and talked it over.
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Fact Gary is a loser.

The only reason he has one this yr is because BoBBy forced Wade down his throat this offseason.

What's Garys record without Wade?

They were acting like they won the SB after a 9-7 season.

Now they're acting like they won a SB after they snuck into the playoffs in a truly putrid division.

Sad part is Wade will probably get a HC gig and Gary will get a 3 yr extention. The fans will be stuck with 3 more yrs of Gary ball. Because as it has been shown BoBBy will not buy out Garys extention regadless of how bad he stinks at his job.


Still not getting this. The offense did enough to win. If we get one stop there at the end of the game we win.

We stopped them, twice. But penalties put them on the one yard line. How in the hello are we blaming the offense? Blame the coach, I get that.

But not because of the offense.
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Kubiak could commit 1st degree murder and you'd have the same people running in here and making excuses for why he did it.

Fact is He put the handcuffs back on and went super conservative and don't give me the injury excuse...because that's not how he coached when the division was still up for grabs. Matt Schaub is not going to walk through that door, Yates is what we have under center until next year so let him freaking play......and if you don't trust him, then pull him and give someone else a shot. You can't hide your QB in the playoffs so instead of wasting valuable snaps during these last few games, he should've used them to get T.J. ready for the playoffs.

Kubiak coaches like a scared wussy....not surprising for a guy who can't even watch his kicker kick FGs.
Have you rewatched the Cincy or Atlanta game?
The only deep pass was that 50-yd strike to AJ. Yates hit AJ for 50, 22, 20, and 5 yd strikes in that game. He went deep to JJ twice and came up empty.

In the Cincy game he went deep twice. Once to JJ (that he should have caught) and to OD once for 27 yds. Nothing else deep. Even on the winning drive, there were no passes of 20 yds or more.

Point is, since AJ went down the kid has always been prone to throw underneath; even in the victories. Maybe he doesn't have confidence in the other guys or could it be that the other guys just cannot get open so he takes what the defense is giving him?

We saw in the last game the O-line couldn't give him sufficient time to even throw short, let alone look downfield.

But hey, keep blaming the coach instead of holding the players responsible to do their damned jobs if that makes you happy.
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But hey, keep blaming the coach instead of holding the players responsible to do their damned jobs if that makes you happy.
It is, and always has been, more about being "right" than about supporting a team with these folks. You'll never convince them. Even if we were to win the Superbowl they'd make some claim about the opponent being sub-par or something equally ridiculous
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Have you rewatched the Cincy or Atlanta game?
The only deep pass was that 50-yd strike to AJ. Yates hit AJ for 50, 22, 20, and 5 yd strikes in that game. He went deep to JJ twice and came up empty.

In the Cincy game he went deep twice. Once to JJ (that he should have caught) and to OD once for 27 yds. Nothing else deep. Even on the winning drive, there were no passes of 20 yds or more.

Point is, since AJ went down the kid has always been prone to throw underneath; even in the victories. Maybe he doesn't have confidence in the other guys or could it be that the other guys just cannot get open so he takes what the defense is giving him?

We saw in the last game the O-line couldn't give him sufficient time to even throw short, let alone look downfield.

But hey, keep blaming the coach instead of holding the players responsible to do their damned jobs if that makes you happy.
He handed the ball off on 3rd and 8....What's your rationalization and excuse for that? Keep drinking the koolaid and crapping rainbows though.
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0-2 without Wade.
Well, if we are going that route, Kubiak is under .500 w/o Wade, but you can bet your bottom dollar someone will explain it away.
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Still not getting this. The offense did enough to win. If we get one stop there at the end of the game we win.

We stopped them, twice. But penalties put them on the one yard line. How in the hello are we blaming the offense? Blame the coach, I get that.

But not because of the offense.
Merry Christmas and all, but are you really blowing that much smoke up your own ass to believe this? The offense did enough to win? No, I'm sorry, but it was the D that played to win the game. Some costly mistakes on D, bad calls by the refs contributed to this loss, but the offense has puckered up. The O-line looked like an embarrassment and the playcalling had all of the hallmarks of a Kubiak turtle game.

If we get one stop at the end of the game you say? You should wonder aloud why the team was in this position in the first place. It was not the defense. How about the offense do whatever they can to sustain a drive? Nah, that might take some guts, like calling a play off script or outside of the box.

We lost to the effin' 1-13 Colts who, I would venture to say, are in a worse position than us team-wise. We rolled over for them and the beat the Tits. We should all be concerned the Tits are now about to punch this team in the junk and not because of the defense not making a stop.
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Merry Christmas and all, but are you really blowing that much smoke up your own ass to believe this? The offense did enough to win? No, I'm sorry, but it was the D that played to win the game. Some costly mistakes on D, bad calls by the refs contributed to this loss, but the offense has puckered up. The O-line looked like an embarrassment and the playcalling had all of the hallmarks of a Kubiak turtle game.

If we get one stop at the end of the game you say? You should wonder aloud why the team was in this position in the first place. It was not the defense. How about the offense do whatever they can to sustain a drive? Nah, that might take some guts, like calling a play off script or outside of the box.

We lost to the effin' 1-13 Colts who, I would venture to say, are in a worse position than us team-wise. We rolled over for them and the beat the Tits. We should all be concerned the Tits are now about to punch this team in the junk and not because of the defense not making a stop.

Yeah since when has scoring (1) TD been good enough for an offense ?
And it was the defense that set them up with that REALLY short field to begin with .
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We had the lead with 1:56 to go. That's enough, regardless what the score is.

The kid wasn't throwing it downfield when he had the opportunity, why think giving him more opportunities would change that?

We had the lead, we got the stop, twice. But the penalties extended their drive.

Blaming the offensive game plan doesn't make sense.

We get a stop, the game is over, we win. You can say that with certainty. Throwing the ball more does not guarantee we are in a better position with 1:56 to go.
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We had the lead with 1:56 to go. That's enough, regardless what the score is.

The kid wasn't throwing it downfield when he had the opportunity, why think giving him more opportunities would change that?

We had the lead, we got the stop, twice. But the penalties extended their drive.

Blaming the offensive game plan doesn't make sense.

We get a stop, the game is over, we win. You can say that with certainty. Throwing the ball more does not guarantee we are in a better position with 1:56 to go.
By your own logic had we scored a TD the defensive stop/nonstop would be irrelevant. Penalties would have been moot. I merrily applaud your unwavering position though, I just can't agree. Let's keep our fingers crossed for a playoff win.
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By your own logic had we scored a TD the defensive stop/nonstop would be irrelevant. Penalties would have been moot. I merrily applaud your unwavering position though, I just can't agree. Let's keep our fingers crossed for a playoff win.
We can play what ifs all day long, & if you know me, you know I love that game. But today, reality is on my side. The offense handed the defense the lead, a short clock, no timeouts, and a long field.

If you believe we should have scored a touchdown there, then there is no way you dont believe we should have got that stop.

It's easy to Monday morning this thing to death. But the fact remains our defense had an opportunity to win the game vs Dan Orlovsky and the Colts, i'd take that bet 10 times out of 10.

Tj vs Freeney & Mathis or DanO vs Cushing & Watt, where you putting your money?
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We can play what ifs all day long, & if you know me, you know I love that game. But today, reality is on my side. The offense handed the defense the lead, a short clock, no timeouts, and a long field.

If you believe we should have scored a touchdown there, then there is no way you dont believe we should have got that stop.

It's easy to Monday morning this thing to death. But the fave remains our defense had an opportunity to win the game vs Dan Orlovsky and the Colts, i'd take that bet 10 times out of 10.

Th vs Freeney & Mathis or Dani vs Cushing & Watt, where you putting your money?
The sole reason offense had the lead was due to the defense. In fact, let's all remember that the Colts essentially handed the Texans 7 points in the opening minutes due to a fumble caused by the Texans defense. Had it not been for that short field provided to the Texan's offense by their defense I shudder to think that we could have been down to the Colts at halftime.
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The sole reason offense had the lead was due to the defense. In fact, let's all remember that the Colts essentially handed the Texans 7 points in the opening minutes due to a fumble caused by the Texans defense. Had it not been for that short field provided to the Texan's offense by their defense I shudder to think that we could have been down to the Colts at halftime.
It's definetly a team game. The defense played better than the offense all night long. But as bad as the offense played, we had the lead with less than two minutes to play.

That's really all you can ask for with a third string QB
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It seems that some people just don't have the capability of understanding why so many people are criticizing Kubiak after this game and then looking back at the last 3 games. People realize that the team has had all types of injuries and stuff like that. People want to see the HC going for the win any way possible though. They don't want to see a conservative game plan just because Yates is a rookie. Hell this same rookie had a very impressive drive against one of the best defenses in the NFL to win the game in the clutch. People are watching a HC pull back the reigns completely on this offense giving other teams a competitive advantage. Most fans realize that Yates is a young QB that is going to make mistakes here and there, but they want to see the kid allowed to actually play and try to put up points on offense. Kubiak is coaching to where it has to be all on the defense and the running game to win the game which is handcuffing the team at this juncture. I don't doubt one bit that folks would be just fine with Kubiak if he was allowing Yates and the rest of the offense to make plays. He's not!! It's that simple. NOthing more complicated about it. Allow your team the chance to win the game and PLAY TO WIN instead of playing to stay in the game and hoping that your defense can create a few TO's for some easy FG's to win with an offensive output of 13 points.
I agree 100%
I have been saying this for years. This is not really new for Kubiak. He has just taken it up a notch.
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The Indianapolis defense has given up 27.4 points per game this season.

The Texans scored 16 points Thursday night.

The Texans offense scored 11.4 points fewer than Indy's other opponents.

The Indianapolis offense has scored an average of 15.3 points per game.

The Texans defense gave up 19 points Thursday night.

The Texans defense gave up 3.7 points more than Indy's other opponents this season.

Texans offense: 11.4 points below average
Texans defense: 3.7 points above average

This game should have been put away --- with more offensive output --- in the first half.
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We have the #2 ranked defense, as well as the #2 ranked rushing offense. I don't understand why you guys want to put more responsibility on a 3rd string rookie QB, without our #1 receiver, as well as a Owen Daniels that wasn't 100%. Not to mention, the OL was struggling all game against the Colts pass rush.

On TV, I couldn't see all of the routes the receivers were running. But I did see in two of the naked boots, the Texans had Dreesen running an underneath route, and a receiver running a deep post. On both instances, both receivers were open. Only Yates knows why he didn't opt for the deep post. Makes me wonder how many other deep routes are open, but Yates isn't simply throwing to them?

I have no problems with Kubiak's game plan. I would have came in with the same mindset to run first, pass second, don't turn the ball over, and rely on the defense to protect the lead. There was simply poor execution by the players. Maybe the poor execution is because of Kubiak? But as for the play calling and game plan, I had no big problems with it.
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We have the #2 ranked defense, as well as the #2 ranked rushing offense. I don't understand why you guys want to put more responsibility on a 3rd string rookie QB, without our #1 receiver, as well as a Owen Daniels that wasn't 100%. Not to mention, the OL was struggling all game against the Colts pass rush.

On TV, I couldn't see all of the routes the receivers were running. But I did see in two of the naked boots, the Texans had Dreesen running an underneath route, and a receiver running a deep post. On both instances, both receivers were open. Only Yates knows why he didn't opt for the deep post. Makes me wonder how many other deep routes are open, but Yates isn't simply throwing to them?

I have no problems with Kubiak's game plan. I would have came in with the same mindset to run first, pass second, don't turn the ball over, and rely on the defense to protect the lead. There was simply poor execution by the players. Maybe the poor execution is because of Kubiak? But as for the play calling and game plan, I had no big problems with it.
So you'd run on 3rd and 8? Okay. This isn't even about the amount of passing plays, it has to do with the type of plays that were called. A lot of screens and during big plays of the game we took the ball out of his hands.

We're about to play a playoff game...seeding aside, we should've been spending that time trying to get the kid ready for that playoff game. You can't hide your QB in the NFL..regardless if you have the #2 ranked defense and running game. Kubiak should've spent the last couple of weeks trying to prepare this kid, not cuff him. For one if he fell flat on his face we'd know that we need to give Jake a shot...and if Yates hit homeruns Kubiak would know that was his guy. Now we're left where we're at....Yates ability is in question and we don't know shit about his backups.

Y'all can try to cut it any way y'all want to...at the end of the day, it's shitty coaching and the man coached scared, not like a guy who has nothing to lose....and with all of the injuries that's EXACTLY WHAT HE IS. He'll still have a job here next season regardless of what happens this season, so he needs to coach like it..he literally has nothing to lose.

Last edited by Carr Bombed; 12-25-2011 at 02:26 AM.
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